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FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby mybadname » Sun May 23, 2021 6:23 am

    

Because of the ongoing brouhaha between M5 and Miss Universe Canada Org., these are the lessons that need to be kept as something Holy.

1. Never ever dress those Caucasian delegates for free! They have the money, right? So let them pay!
2. Support only Asian delegates for free. One Asia. United Asia.
3.Totally BAN Miss Universe Canada Org. Do not let other Filipinos work on them.


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Postby esperasave » Sun May 23, 2021 6:36 am

mybadname wrote:Because of the ongoing brouhaha between M5 and Miss Universe Canada Org., these are the lessons that need to be kept as something Holy.

1. Never ever dress those Caucasian delegates for free! They have the money, right? So let them pay!
2. Support only Asian delegates for free. One Asia. United Asia.
3.Totally BAN Miss Universe Canada Org. Do not let other Filipinos work on them.


If you ban Miss Universe Canada Org, the people behind them today will just switch countries of their choice to manage and work with. That's how the beauty pageantries are getting smaller. The people behind all of these pageantries of the world, the universe rather are so versatile and prolific. They run and manage like a mafia because they work fast and with precision. Thats why I advised handlers from the Philippines to send candidates that are like Baby Armalite or Automatic rifle. Those candidates that doesn't need to be ejected or kinakasa but can deliver automatically. And besides, everything will happen fast. Likewise, for all people involved out there, trust is earned and once broken, it's hard to get it back.
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Sun May 23, 2021 7:05 am

That is also the question playing in my mind.

Why is it that Michael Cinco let MUC uses his gowns for free? I know M5 is rich, but how good Denis Davila and his team that they can swindle a Michael Cinco?

Is Denis Davila good at persuasion or maybe he uses budol budol. :%)) =;)) :%))
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Postby Rosa Mystica » Sun May 23, 2021 7:14 am

Virginia Dalisay wrote:That is also the question playing in my mind.

Why is it that Michael Cinco let MUC uses his gowns for free? I know M5 is rich, but how good Denis Davila and his team that they can swindle a Michael Cinco?

Is Denis Davila good at persuasion or maybe he uses budol budol. :%)) =;)) :%))


No, he's a professional Scammer and Swindler. :D/
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby esperasave » Sun May 23, 2021 8:27 am

The equation is not right. The Filipino designers are the ones that always give, give and give. While the Miss Universe Canada Org are the once that only take, take, take. Thats the reason why, all their relationships turned into sour. You need to straighten out those issues because it can resonate with you back ten folds.
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Postby Clorentine » Sun May 23, 2021 8:36 am

Wait ... those gowns all this time were for free?
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby Elyerno Zabagguri » Sun May 23, 2021 9:48 am

MAY LIBRE PA PALA SA PANAHON NGAYON???
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Postby Virginia Dalisay » Sun May 23, 2021 10:53 am

Kung libre yung kay Canada, posible din bang libre din yung mga gowns nila Romania, Czech Republic at Mexico? Aba, sobrang bait naman pala nitong si Michael Cinco. :-O :-O :-O
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Postby esperasave » Sun May 23, 2021 10:57 am

Elyerno Zabagguri wrote:MAY LIBRE PA PALA SA PANAHON NGAYON???


It's sponsorship. I will make you an evening gown for the competition to use or for any formal gigs but you need to advertise or promote my gown to the public so it can generate sales. That's suppose to work on both sides. The relationship is kindda give and take so that our understanding with each other professionally can last. The equation is not suppose to be like this, "I deliver you heaven, but you give me back hell." It's no way Jose. You can't twist or screw up my brain.
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Postby esperasave » Sun May 23, 2021 10:59 am

Virginia Dalisay wrote:Kung libre yung kay Canada, posible din bang libre din yung mga gowns nila Romania, Czech Republic at Mexico? Aba, sobrang bait naman pala nitong si Michael Cinco. :-O :-O :-O


Yes, it's possible. But they've advertised what was used or borrowed to them in the international stage so there was an exchange of deals. But there is some cases when people give but they don't want anything in return. Of course, it should be implied or consented so that there will be no issues in the end. I think thats true for anywhere else. If you heard about Brooke Lee's story, there were instances where she will mail a package of her Miss Universe tiaras or crown to a friend so they get the feel of it. That's a smart thing to do instead of sitting with it in the cabinet for the bugs and roaches to feast on it but let her friends enjoy it first hand.
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby Philippinesupporter1998 » Sun May 23, 2021 11:37 am

Clorentine wrote:Wait ... those gowns all this time were for free?


Here's the thing: THEY SHOULD NOT HAVE BEEN FREE! =O/

Cinco gowns don't come cheap, you know! =/
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Postby Xanadu Tinkerbell » Sun May 23, 2021 1:13 pm

Nova Steven speaks up! :-O


Leila Lopez sumawsaw! :-O
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby nycla2 » Sun May 23, 2021 4:24 pm

Lesson learned. Filipino designers and camps/trainers should focus more on filipina queens I know business is business but sone of these bishes are ungrateful and when their girls lose they will get bitter and blame the designers. Karma will get them soon!
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Postby renegade » Sun May 23, 2021 5:11 pm

nycla2 wrote:Lesson learned. Filipino designers and camps/trainers should focus more on filipina queens I know business is business but sone of these bishes are ungrateful and when their girls lose they will get bitter and blame the designers. Karma will get them soon!


Mas maganda pa ung gown ni Canada kesa kay Rabiya. Imagine that tas libre lang pala. User din tong MUC! M5 does not need MUC.
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Postby brent520 » Sun May 23, 2021 7:50 pm

nycla2 wrote:Lesson learned. Filipino designers and camps/trainers should focus more on filipina queens I know business is business but sone of these bishes are ungrateful and when their girls lose they will get bitter and blame the designers. Karma will get them soon!


I’m sort of kind of agreeing with you on this.

Hmmm...
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby poker_man » Mon May 24, 2021 12:34 am

Ang tanga lang ni Michael Cinco. For free talaga? Kaya lagi tayong inaapakan ng mga dayuhan dahil sa mga libreng service eh.
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Postby Astara » Mon May 24, 2021 1:36 am

poker_man wrote:Ang tanga lang ni Michael Cinco. For free talaga? Kaya lagi tayong inaapakan ng mga dayuhan dahil sa mga libreng service eh.


Kung maka tanga ka naman parang nag sponsor ka na somewhere!

Baka kaya ka inaapakan ng dayuhan kasi mukha kang doormat! chura neto!
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby Qui Qui Quinali Quote » Mon May 24, 2021 8:28 am

It’s absolutely understandable why so many Filipino fashion designers would like to dress up girls from other countries for free .

In Philippine pageantry... whoever is the designer of the winner gets to dress up the girl come the Miss Universe competition.

They need to circumvent the established system in the Philippines .

Para paraan lang yan ... to make name internationally .
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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby manoypoe » Mon May 24, 2021 8:31 am

ANOTHER TESTIMONY FOR MICHAEL CINCO
SANDRA SIEFERT, MISS EARTH AIR 2009

I was saddened to discover the recent accusations made against Filipino designer @michael5inco on social media.

Thus, being the very first beauty Queen to wear Michael on the international pageantry stage, I felt compelled to share what he is really like as a designer, and more importantly as a friend to our family.

My journey with Michael began back in 2009 when he dressed me in the unforgettable rainbow cascading Swarovski gown for Miss Earth. The gown had already been purchased by a buyer at $25,000 USD at the time, but to show his support for the Philippines and pageantry he found a way to send the creation all the way to Manila (including a fallback blush Swarovski gown) to a candidate he hadn’t even met in person (me)! Thanks to Michael Cinco, we bagged the best in Long gown award and I went on to win Miss Earth Air in that very same dress!

Little did I know, that was only the beginning... A few years later I visited Dubai and Michael was kind enough to warmly welcome me and take me to dinner where he also introduced me to important people in the fashion industry. One thing I will never forget is his concern for my safety; since I was alone, he made sure to personally bring me home because his driver had already left. Imagine THE MICHAEL CINCO driving you home in his Mercedes Benz! Unforgettable...

But that’s not all. When I brought my family to Dubai during another trip, Michael welcomed us to his atelier and even gave us a personal tour which included areas that are off limits to most people! Humbly, he then insisted that mom and Coco join us for dinner at one of the prime Italian restaurants facing the Burge Khalifa! He really makes an effort to make things special for everyone!

But beyond wearing his world class creations, fine dine dinners and genuine love for my family, Michael has been an inspiration and mentor in my pursuit of being a fashion designer. From connecting me to the right people, to seating me and my friends front row at Fashion Forward (including Amato and Ezra Santos’ shows), his support for me continues to amaze me...

Today, he would rather have me showcase my own design work at his events than wear his creations!

I have had the opportunity to work with many designers, but Michael is far different from all of them. There is a reason he is a world-class Filipino designer and I genuinely believe it is because apart from his obvious talent and professionalism, he is a honest, humble, unselfish, and above all God-fearing individual who actually wants to share his talents and blessings with those people he can reach.

This being said, I hope that those people who have hurt him with piercing words and false accusations apologize and mend things as I am sure Michael is kind enough to forgive you.

Let us be grateful for our blessings, and show our gratitude towards those who have helped us.

Michael, sending you much light and love!


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Re: FILIPINO Designers dilemma

Postby tim1962 » Mon May 24, 2021 9:21 am

Simple solution. Put every agreement in writing.
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