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MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby steve » Wed Jan 19, 2022 11:45 pm

    


Tagged as the Drought Era for the Philippines in Miss Universe, who among the ten Miss Philippines you think deserved to have been called in the first cut?

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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby Ian Sebastin » Thu Jan 20, 2022 1:14 am

NONE OF THEM! THAT IS WHY THEY ALL CLAPPED!!!!

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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby Mariana Erwin » Thu Jan 20, 2022 2:53 am

i would’ve loved to see Nina, Gionna, and Anna Theresa place - sadly, they didn’t.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby XAMURAI » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:02 am

Lia Andrea Ramos... Kahit na Top 20 na that time di pa rin nakapasok ang Philippines... =O/
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby panchopolo » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:21 am

Nina for her stage presence, Lia for that body, Anna for her brains and composure, and Bianca for her determination. They're all beautiful, but their batches were really competitive.

Having read offstage whispers about Nina, though, I'm not sure her lackadaisical attitude would have been noticed by IMG.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby kantutay » Thu Jan 20, 2022 3:42 am

What if:

Mafae instead of Carla
Carlene instead of Gionna
Maggie instead of Teresa
Danielle instead of Jennifer
Mary Ann instead of Bianca
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby XAMURAI » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:39 am

kantutay wrote:What if:

Mafae instead of Carla
Carlene instead of Gionna
Maggie instead of Teresa
Danielle instead of Jennifer
Mary Ann instead of Bianca


Mafae was perfect for MW. Sana si Kate or Noella na lang pinadala nila sa Miss Universe that year.
Carlene instead of Gionna..!!! Yes!!!
Maggie would have been underage by Miss Universe standard.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby filipinoako28 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 9:28 am

Based on performance, they should have placed:

1. 2001
2. 2004
3. 2006

Kung i factor in man ang interview, at least 2001 should have made it.
These 3 girls, in my opinion, even performed better than some of our girls who actually made it to the semis.

Si 2004, medyo may idea ako about her comm skills. Pero if she was mas magaling sana sa department na ito - gosh, perfect delegate. Looking at this clip di talaga sya napag iiwanan. So gorgeous.

2006 - feeling ko nagkulang sa strategy. This was the year na gusto nila fierce but her SS was so tamed and demure. HOWEVER, top 20 nung time na ito. She performed batter than at least half of those who actually made it sa semis in 2006.

Sash really had a ton of weight during this era of Miss Universe.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby stuff » Thu Jan 20, 2022 5:44 pm

Bianca might have placed if she was packaged differently. I mean Andrea Mesa looks like a curvy version of her.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby chorr » Thu Jan 20, 2022 6:35 pm

Considering scoring, quality of girls Misses Philippines was actually competing with and the actual first cut, Nina, Maricar, Lia, and yes, Bianca should've made the first cut.
Karen's beauty would've been appreciated somewhere else. Barraza actually liked her, she has international appeal, but if the goddess Vanessa Mendoza missed the cut, how can she compete with Oxana?
Madam's desperation for a MW crown made her send Carlene to MW instead.
Licaros should've went MW instead. Nadia Shami, Liezel Verses and even the very raw Nicole Schmitz should have went instead.
In all fairness, Barrientos catwalk was the best among the Trump But Drought era of MUP. That adobo abomination costed her chances though. Castano and Patch were perfect girls already for 2008, I mean Atty. Guerrero is a superbeauty but she will not step in top 5 because of the poison letters.
2009 = SANDRA SEIFERT >:< >:< >:< >:< >:< the perfect top 3 would be Sandra, Bianca, Marie Ann. Melody and Diana Arevalo as their Runners up!

Hypothetical scenarios:
If IMG already owns and current scoring are used, Nina, Gionna, Tere will zoom in top 5. Specially the quality of the training Misses Philippines get now.
If the quality of training the girls currently get + PH designers during Trump era happened, I think Nina, Lia, Maricar, Gionna (her walk and her dress... disease), Tere and Bianca would have reached at least top 10. If the current metrics and pressure were used for competing girls to get PH sash in Miss Universe: Karen, Carla, Jennifer would have NOT won MUPH.


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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby sleuth08 » Thu Jan 20, 2022 7:04 pm

steve wrote:

Tagged as the Drought Era for the Philippines in Miss Universe, who among the ten Miss Philippines you think deserved to have been called in the first cut?

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IT'S ALSO THE BAZURRA GOWN ERA FOR THE PHILIPPINES. TONS OF ILL FITTING, PLAIN, DRABBY GOWNS THAT SMA FORCED THE GIRLS TO WEAR.

ZORAYDA RUTH ANDAM, MARICAR BALAGTAS AND LIA ANDREA RAMOS DESERVED A PLACEMENT IF THEY WERE GIVEN BETTER GOWNS
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby mrgary » Thu Jan 20, 2022 11:56 pm

If the MUPh Organisation were already in existence during the drought era, then Joey Mead (aka Pilar Angeles), Juliana Palermo (aka Alvi July Juanico), Sandra Seifert, Cindy Kurleto, Carisheila Kuijpers, and others would have been given a fair chance to compete on stage and to probably win a crown for the Philippines in the international arena. It was just so sad to know that the majority of these girls were snubbed by BPCI at the time. Although Kuijpers became a Bb. Pilipinas candidate in 2009(?), however, she was not really given an airtime or even a quick interview for pageant fans to get to know her at all. Sad, really!
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby mrgary » Fri Jan 21, 2022 12:24 am

My comments on our winners during the drought era:

2000: Nina was not teachable as per BPCI. She was too conceited to undergo training in Venezuela. She adamantly refused to be trained. Period.
2001: Zora's gummy smiles were annoying and her walk was not good, either, especially when she wore her heels. We were in the same flight from LAX-MNL and I noticed that she bent her knees too much while walking in her stilettos. She was pretty in person but the gummy smiles were awful!
2002: Karen was dubbed as the "young Aruray" during her pageant time. No x-factor at all.
2003: Carla Gay . . . how did this girl win BbP-Universe??!!
2004: Maricar was sexy and had superb pasarela but the interview skills weren't there!
2005: Gionna was not interested to compete at Miss Universe. Up to now, I still don't know why she didn't resign from her post as Bb. Pilipinas Universe since she had no interest whatsoever in winning the Miss Universe crown at all. She could've given her 1st RU a chance to compete in Bangkok instead of her and her dismal performance. SMH!
2006: Lia was just not good enough even in the Top 20 at Miss Universe.
2007: In a time when Asian beauties dominated the pageant in Mexico, Theresa was nowhere to be found. Her face reminded me of Eugene Domingo's. No x-factor at all, either!
2008: Jennifer lacked training. Her evening gown was horrible!
2009: Bianca's styling was such a letdown. Barraza's inspiration for the evening gown was his bathroom curtain! If Bianca's training and styling were on-point, then she could have penetrated in the Top 15.


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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby ~Kokak Jolie Middleton~ » Fri Jan 21, 2022 2:29 am

The Philippine pageant dark ages paved the way for pinoy trainers , fashion designers, pageant enthusiasts and the Binibinis themselves to rebel against the system promulgated by Madam SMA .
There was total bias against local trainers and fashion designers and Madam SMA used her iron fist with Alfredo Barraza as her shining beacon .
Looking back , it was really ghastly and horrendous . Gosh , what does Colombia have ? They only had one Miss Universe winner at that time and Philippines had 2 .
And in this present day and age , Colombia is having a hard time keeping up with the powerhouse Philippines .
Madam SMA and Barraza awaken an Asian pageant powerhouse dragon .

But to answer the question ...
Gionna should have won .
She’s 5’10 , gorgeous , a professional model and studied in exclusive schools Miriam College and Saint Paul .
She won the Royal Thai Silk model award and bested the likes of the towering Renata Soñé of Dominican Republic, the gorgeous Venezuelan Monica Spear , PR Cynthia Olavarría, eventual winner Natalie Glebova etc .
Barraza sabotaged her and told her do that atrocious catwalk during the prelims .

Bianca Manalo should have made the first cut at least .
She’s tall ( 5’10 ) and a gorgeous Asian .
Her plain blue gown ruined her .


The rest deserves to clap most especially Teresa Licaros .
She only won Bb .Pilipinas Universe because she’s a freak’n UP summa cum laude.
Madam SMA wasted the year when Asians dominated the Miss Universe pageant with 4 Asians making the first cut and Riyo Mori eventually winning .
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby Declan » Fri Jan 21, 2022 4:28 am

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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby RatedX » Fri Jan 21, 2022 7:44 am

Sometimes the girl+gown combo isn't fit.

Miss Universe 2003 - Philippines' gown was actually pretty nice, but unfortunately the girl didn't have the "It" Factor
Miss Universe 2007 - Tere is actually okay-ish and could've placed in the Top 15 I think, but her gown made her look like a lumpiang shanghai with no curves.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby jampol » Fri Jan 21, 2022 3:14 pm

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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby elio » Fri Jan 21, 2022 10:30 pm

2003 AND 2001 HAVE NICE FACE
2000 HAD CHARISMA AND FINALIST POTENTIAL.
2004 ON PHYSICAL BEAUTY SHE WAS STUNNING.
2009 I LIKE HER,IF PREPARED BETTER,SHE WOULD HAVE BEEN A TOP CONTENDER,WASTED BEAUTY,I BELIEVE SHE WAS THE BEST IN THESE YEARS.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby batobato » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:16 am

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Postby renegade » Sat Jan 22, 2022 4:15 am

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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby Audriene » Sat Jan 22, 2022 7:14 am

They may not have placed during this era but I think napansin pa rin sila kahit kaunti through Miss Photogenic award. The Philippines has the most number of Miss Photogenic award in Miss Universe history, btw.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby panchopolo » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:48 pm

chorr wrote:Considering scoring, quality of girls Misses Philippines was actually competing with and the actual first cut, Nina, Maricar, Lia, and yes, Bianca should've made the first cut.
Karen's beauty would've been appreciated somewhere else. Barraza actually liked her, she has international appeal, but if the goddess Vanessa Mendoza missed the cut, how can she compete with Oxana?
Madam's desperation for a MW crown made her send Carlene to MW instead.
Licaros should've went MW instead. Nadia Shami, Liezel Verses and even the very raw Nicole Schmitz should have went instead.
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2009 = SANDRA SEIFERT >:< >:< >:< >:< >:< the perfect top 3 would be Sandra, Bianca, Marie Ann. Melody and Diana Arevalo as their Runners up!

Hypothetical scenarios:
If IMG already owns and current scoring are used, Nina, Gionna, Tere will zoom in top 5. Specially the quality of the training Misses Philippines get now.
If the quality of training the girls currently get + PH designers during Trump era happened, I think Nina, Lia, Maricar, Gionna (her walk and her dress... disease), Tere and Bianca would have reached at least top 10. If the current metrics and pressure were used for competing girls to get PH sash in Miss Universe: Karen, Carla, Jennifer would have NOT won MUPH.



Perfect reading, Chorr. Anna (Tere) was unrefined sugar. Maricar, whose beauty I was never a fan of, could have been molded properly as she had the best stage experience amongst all ten of them.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby panchopolo » Sat Jan 22, 2022 2:53 pm

Audriene wrote:They may not have placed during this era but I think napansin pa rin sila kahit kaunti through Miss Photogenic award. The Philippines has the most number of Miss Photogenic award in Miss Universe history, btw.


Which eventually lost its luster, as photographers stopped voting for the most photogenic delegate. By the time Anna got the title, it had been the fans voting for the award.
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Postby Jullius » Sat Jan 22, 2022 3:39 pm

Nina and Bianca only... Nina was totally robbed.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby ne0n » Sat Jan 22, 2022 5:44 pm

Thought Ana Theresa Licaros and Bianca Manalo were shoo-ins in that trail end of what is now known as the blackout decade of Philippine pageantry at Miss Universe.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby Ian Sebastin » Sun Jan 23, 2022 2:18 am

They all clapped. And they will start clapping again in 2022.

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Postby kantutay » Sun Jan 23, 2022 5:01 am

Michelle Reyes (Miss Tourism International and Miss Tourism World) could have been a better representative than Zorayda, very queenly.
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Postby cindy_kato » Mon Jan 24, 2022 5:07 am

i remember ali and julie were shocked to see that nina didn't make the cut
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Postby sarahmarrow » Mon Jan 24, 2022 11:03 am

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Tagged as the Drought Era for the Philippines in Miss Universe, who among the ten Miss Philippines you think deserved to have been called in the first cut?

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I think ALAGAO and ARENAS are the Miss Philippines in the Miss Universe competition with a chance to be placed in the top 15 then.
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Re: MISS PHILIPPINES FROM 2000 TO 2009

Postby sexydrew82 » Thu Jan 27, 2022 6:47 pm

Hey everyone! It's been awhile!!! I hope y'all had a wonderful New Year!
What a fun topic! Honestly 2000-2009 were such interesting years of winners and there were a few ladies in the decade that I personally thought, should've made the cut!

2000- Nina Ricci Alagao, should made Top 10 atleast. After Miriam's success in 1999, I think Nina was a solid follow up and was a total go getter. I remember even Ali & Julie had mentioned during the telecast that they were surprised that "Germany & Philippines" didn't make the cut. Nina's styling during the evening gown competition was a little dated, which might've cost her a spot...but overall, I think she was the full package. \

2001- Zora Andam was a surprise win for me at Binibini, but I admired her transformation in Venezuela. She looked great in her training there, but somehow it didn't quite translate when she got to Puerto Rico. Loved her national costume and her prelim evening gown performance was pure elegance. It was tough competition that year, but I would've loved to see Zora make the cut.

2004-Maricar Balagtas was another beauty who could've made the cut, because she was gorgeous, well-prepared and had great stage presence. I think what may have hurt her was the interview, because I remember her having issues there. But one of the most beautiful Filipinas in the decade.

2006-Lia Andrea Ramos was highly expected to make the cut, especially since Top 20 semifinalists were being called. Another beauty that looked great, stage presence, interview and very pretty face. What might have been lacking here was a little bit of edginess? I found her performance during prelims a little safe, when there was really strong South American performances. But could've easily been a wild card for the Top 20.

2009-Bianca Manalo was another Filipina who I thought might make the cut. Her transformation from winning Bb. Pilipinas to arriving at Miss Universe did not go unnoticed, and I thought that she could break the dry spell for the Philippines. But alas, she was left out the semis. In fact, no Asian countries were called that year.

As well, we must bear in mind that during this decade of Miss Universe, there was very little representation of Asian semifinalists. With the exception of 2007, the average representation of Asian countries in the semis was like 1 or 2. So when 2010 hit, we saw more Asian nations rising to the occasion to make a mark on the Miss Universe stage.

2000- India
2001- India
2002- China, India
2003- Japan
2004- India
2005- Indonesia
2006- Japan, India, Thailand
2007- Japan, Korea, India, Thailand
2008- Japan, Vietnam
2009- none

Anyways, it's been really enjoyable following the Philippines over the last 12 years! I can hardly wait to see what the country brings to the international pageant stage this decade!!
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