yellowyam1 wrote:The new miss usa is top 5 for sure at miss universe. The complete package
itsrowdy801 wrote:yellowyam1 wrote:The new miss usa is top 5 for sure at miss universe. The complete package
No she won't and no she isn't.
yellowyam1 wrote:itsrowdy801 wrote:yellowyam1 wrote:The new miss usa is top 5 for sure at miss universe. The complete package
No she won't and no she isn't.
She is and she will. The girl owned that stage last night, she will be very competitive. If last’s year rep could win miss universe I don’t see why this girl can’t when she is miles ahead of the current miss universe
ab2 wrote:I just wanna give a shoutout to my girl, Ms Samantha Gallia who represented us Washingtonians wonderfully last night. After years and years of disappointment, it was such a surreal moment to hear Washington called into the semifinals.
We love you girl!!
And congrats to Noelia! She will do great at Miss Universe.
itsrowdy801 wrote:
What is wrong with just being normal and having 16 compete in swim, 10 in gown, 5 in question?
doce wrote:itsrowdy801 wrote:
What is wrong with just being normal and having 16 compete in swim, 10 in gown, 5 in question?
I'm not joking...it's because they're scared of being canceled. If they have a cut after swimsuit, people could say they're objectifying women and judging women's bodies. You'll notice they're trying so hard to avoid a cut after swim at Miss Universe and Miss USA. I personally think it's ridiculous.
manoypoe wrote:Utah's Natcos designer is a Filipino while she wore some of the gowns of another Filipina designer, Angela Taloza esp. the one during the sashing ceremony.![]()
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doce wrote:itsrowdy801 wrote:
What is wrong with just being normal and having 16 compete in swim, 10 in gown, 5 in question?
I'm not joking...it's because they're scared of being canceled. If they have a cut after swimsuit, people could say they're objectifying women and judging women's bodies. You'll notice they're trying so hard to avoid a cut after swim at Miss Universe and Miss USA. I personally think it's ridiculous.
Hi all, I have been watching this forum for a minute and have permission from contestants and titleholders to present information I believe may be related to the “story” told about Noelia in US pageantry. I was intrigued to learn people in this forum even knew about and alluded to the gossip last night. Here’s what I have questions about regarding Noelia…
1. Isn’t Noelia’s platform re: anti-bullying lifted directly from the required platform “B.R.A.V.E.” in the Miss Collegiate America system? Noelia is a former Miss Connecticut Collegiate and ostensibly wrote the book during her reign in that system in order to meet competing requirements. Does Miss Collegiate America have the BRAVE name, likeness, and initiative trademarked? Is it its own nonprofit trademark or an acronym that Noelia has the right to use?
2. Noelia’s book is based on a child who tragically died of suicide in Alabama. News outlets claim the proceeds of Noelia’s book go to “The Maddie Foundation” for anti bullying awareness. I invite you to Google the Maddie Foundation… everything myself and others have found is related to a 501c3 in California dedicated to early childhood illnesses and pediatric cancer. This begs the question — where are the proceeds going?
3. Noelia got permission from this family to write the book about Maddie but profits off of this mourning family by exaggerating her relationship to the deceased and bringing up a story she has absolutely zero right to bring up during her interviews.
4. Why does Noelia’s wikipedia page have her name listed under her mother’s maiden name when she has never competed with her mother’s maiden name? Is this to strengthen her likability among Venezuelan pageant fans? Or is it just race baiting? Public relations tactic?
5. Her father is a professional athlete with ample connections to ensure his daughter has every chance to succeed and win in pageantry. This decimates the equity of opportunity for other contestants who cannot afford to sway competition. While other Utah competitors funneled money into people’s choice and ad pages — a way to “buy” their way into placing — Noelia did not as emphatically encourage her followers to vote for her and did not purchase ad space, yet had a plethora of online, generated “hype” around her announcement to compete in Utah. I believe that her family could potentially be paying out bloggers to generate fake online hype or creating bot accounts to “hype” Noelia, something other contestants do not have the means to do. This is a known celebrity public relations tactic, and Noelia knows these tactics because it is exactly what other nepotism babies in the industry do in order to rehabilitate their perception by the public. Noelia’s team may have used this and altered these age-old tactics to build pageant hype.
6. Her team has threatened unfounded legal action against a UT contestant after the contestant raised concerns about being uncomfortable due to Noelia’s staff and male family members being in the dressing room as the last of the contestants changed. Is this not bullying? Isn’t Noelia an anti bullying advocate?
7. Members of Noelia’s team reached out to pageant fan blogs alleging that they knew the results of Utah prior to crowning, had spoken with members of the judging panel, and that quote “they are going with Noelia bc 1) she’s prettier [than Mariluz] and 2) if they send her to Miss USA this year with the black girls she will get eaten alive.” This individual implied that the only other Latina titleholder at the time of Noelia’s crowning was Florida, Caroline Dixon, in order to reinforce Noelia’s competitive edge at Miss USA compared to Mariluz, who is actually Cuban. Screenshots of this exchange can be provided if necessary.
8. Members of the pageant community continue to bully Miss Alabama USA’s directors and titleholder because of Noelia’s two losses — despite Noelia supposedly being an “anti bullying” advocate. These illustrate ample opportunities for Noelia to apply her platform in real life, which she failed to do.
9. Other Miss USA contestants do not follow Noelia on social media which, compounded with the above info, raises concern about Noelia’s behavior in person toward other contestants. I fear some titleholders may be scared of Noelia’s team encouraging threatening behavior while Noelia serves as an active bystander.
10. Utah judges are posting their private conversations with Shanna Moakler online in order to build integrity for the Miss UT USA results - judges in other states have never posted text conversations discussing Miss USA winners pre-RBonney, which brings forth the question of the validity of Noelia’s win from the state level. All this drama between judges and sponsors contextualizes why Shanna said “crown whoever, I truly do not care” (paraphrasing here).
11. Members of Noelia’s coaching team were seen assisting production staff at utah by way of handing out promotional goods for Sherri Hill. Noelia’s coaching staff were given “staff” badges despite the fact that they were not assisting other contestants in any way.
12. Members of Noelia’s coaching staff allegedly got a member of Utah’s judging panel thrown for liking another contestant’s Instagram pictures. However, another judge was seen and documented as being in the audience and cheering for Noelia during Miss Alabama USA 2021 and 2022. After Shanna announced the judging panel, members of Noelia’s team stalked contestants and reached out to ensure that the judge they were unhappy with got thrown but did not do their due diligence to alert Shanna of the conflict of interest regarding the judge that had a pre-existing relationship with Noelia.
13. During Miss USA, Noelia held the headphones from her ears during Wisconsin’s OSQ so she could ruminate over the answer to the question… which shows she does not possess strong speaking capabilities. But we knew that. She isn’t a meat scientist, either.
14. Noelia’s team actively seeks out sponsors, designers, and coaches who supported contestants during Noelia’s run for Miss Utah USA and have gone so far as to post private text messages in an effort to bully and undermine those who supported Noelia’s competition in state pageants even after she won the Miss USA crown. This demonstrates another amazing opportunity for Noelia to act on the message spread in her platform and be BRAVE, but instead, she has ignored relentless bullying by members of her coaching staff on social media towards other members of the pageant community for her own benefit.
15. Members of Noelia’s coaching team are followed by Laylah Rose, which represents a conflict of interest and implies a pre-existing relationship between Miss USA leadership and members of Noelia’s team. The dissolution of Miss Brand and introduction of new leadership should have paved a new era of pageantry with ethics, morals, and integrity; Laylah Rose had the obligation to unfollow all coaches, sponsors, staff, and contestants on social media and recuse herself in order to avoid favoritism concerns. Last night’s documentary illuminated the lax standards for conflict of interest regarding relationships between sponsors and directorships as specifically compared to trump era pageantry. Laylah must hold herself and her organization to a higher standard in order to elevate pageantry and should have led by example and ensured she did not associate with anyone related to the eventual winner.
Overall, I am greatly concerned about the leadership vacuum evident in the Miss USA system -- creating top-down corruption that leaves state directors with minimal direction, allowing for individuals seeking to profit off of young women competing in this system to have a leg up through tampering with or otherwise altering the results. I am concerned that those listed above have an undue amount of influence over state competitions and intend to find ways to infiltrate systems to ensure that their clients win. Additionally, I am concerned that individuals like those listed above -- including coaches, sponsors, and production team members — have intimate knowledge of results ahead of time; influence over the judging staff and criteria; influence over sponsor relationships with contestants; and may be able to predetermine or otherwise "fix" the results due to their relationships with judges. As someone who truly loves the mission and intention of pageantry, I write all of this with a deep amount of sorrow and regret. I hope I am wrong. I want to be wrong. So please prove me wrong… I hope those involved with getting Noelia from Alabama to Utah to the Miss USA stage can show that this was done ethically, because if it was, they would be spending today celebrating and not airing out dirty laundry on social media.
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