The Duchess wrote:I believe that if you wanna have a franchise in a pro-trans pageants, shouldn't you be compatible with the pageant?
XAMURAI wrote:Well, we have to dig first if the government of Colombia recognizes transgenders legally as women or not.
Jaishee wrote:The Duchess wrote:I believe that if you wanna have a franchise in a pro-trans pageants, shouldn't you be compatible with the pageant?As a transgender myself, I respect Miss Universe Colombia's decision. I remember in 2012 when this was sensationalized with Jenna Talackova joining Miss Universe Canada. MUO said it doesn't have to be compulsory or a-must for all franchises (because personally I believe each countries' beliefs & practices/religion would always play a role). Even Miss Universe Philippines doesn't accept transgender women and it's perfectly fine for us transgenders here. I do respect that for Miss Universe Colombia.
XAMURAI wrote:Well, we have to dig first if the government of Colombia recognizes transgenders legally as women or not.
mybadname wrote:I'm not against with transwoman but they should not participate in any beauty pageant for women. Whether laws may be created for defining them as a woman, but we cannot deny and defy the fact that their origin is a man.
bastyalex wrote:Jaishee wrote:The Duchess wrote:I believe that if you wanna have a franchise in a pro-trans pageants, shouldn't you be compatible with the pageant?As a transgender myself, I respect Miss Universe Colombia's decision. I remember in 2012 when this was sensationalized with Jenna Talackova joining Miss Universe Canada. MUO said it doesn't have to be compulsory or a-must for all franchises (because personally I believe each countries' beliefs & practices/religion would always play a role). Even Miss Universe Philippines doesn't accept transgender women and it's perfectly fine for us transgenders here. I do respect that for Miss Universe Colombia.
Hi, Dear. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but I felt like your comment is trying to send a message that the MUP org purposely does not accept transgender contestants here in the Philippines, because they have cultural/religious biases. Regardless, I would like to provide another perspective on the matter. I can't remember which interview it was, But Jonas Gaffud already mentioned before that the reason why MUPh Org does not accept transgender contestants is because there is NO LAW in the country that would provide legal documentation and identification for trans women in the country. The US, Spain, Canada, and other (mostly European) countries accept trans women contestants because laws that acknowledge gender identity reassignments already exists and are currently in place, which provide legal basis and recognition to the manhood/womanhood of trans people. Here in the Ph we don't have that yet. That's why we need to be more active in campaigning for laws that would finally provide these legalities. Pag meron na, most likely MUPh will also allow them to join na.
Jaishee wrote:bastyalex wrote:Jaishee wrote:The Duchess wrote:I believe that if you wanna have a franchise in a pro-trans pageants, shouldn't you be compatible with the pageant?As a transgender myself, I respect Miss Universe Colombia's decision. I remember in 2012 when this was sensationalized with Jenna Talackova joining Miss Universe Canada. MUO said it doesn't have to be compulsory or a-must for all franchises (because personally I believe each countries' beliefs & practices/religion would always play a role). Even Miss Universe Philippines doesn't accept transgender women and it's perfectly fine for us transgenders here. I do respect that for Miss Universe Colombia.
Hi, Dear. I don't know if this is intentional or not, but I felt like your comment is trying to send a message that the MUP org purposely does not accept transgender contestants here in the Philippines, because they have cultural/religious biases. Regardless, I would like to provide another perspective on the matter. I can't remember which interview it was, But Jonas Gaffud already mentioned before that the reason why MUPh Org does not accept transgender contestants is because there is NO LAW in the country that would provide legal documentation and identification for trans women in the country. The US, Spain, Canada, and other (mostly European) countries accept trans women contestants because laws that acknowledge gender identity reassignments already exists and are currently in place, which provide legal basis and recognition to the manhood/womanhood of trans people. Here in the Ph we don't have that yet. That's why we need to be more active in campaigning for laws that would finally provide these legalities. Pag meron na, most likely MUPh will also allow them to join na.BUT, gurrrl let's be honest. As if MUPh would take that path
I don't buy that bullshit.
mybadname wrote:I'm not against with transwoman but they should not participate in any beauty pageant for women. Whether laws may be created for defining them as a woman, but we cannot deny and defy the fact that their origin is a man.
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