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Postby Queen of the Clouds » Tue Dec 10, 2019 9:54 pm

    

The Duchess wrote:I think with the passing of the days (which is why my review will come later, I am not mad or have any particular feeling at Zuzibini winning but what Miss Universe and MUO has become. I don't know if I'm the only one. Like while I don't find Zuzibini like stunning, I get why she won given the format of the show... but overall this edition of Miss Universe was kind of a dumpster fire.


The MUO doesn't have enough money to put on a show. What I'm guessing is happening is that IMG is providing the MUO with a budget that can put on a show like what we saw this year or the one in 2017 because the MUO does not generate enough revenue to warrant a bigger budget, and the MUO is struggling to find American sponsors to make up the difference. So the MUO can only put on big grandiose shows when they go abroad and get international sponsors/financial assistance in countries that care about pageantry. Every time an international deal falls through we'll be stuck with a pageant like this (or even worse), until IMG sells MUO (assuming the new buyer will treat it better) or the MUO can pick up some actually helpful American sponsorships. Really hoping maybe South Africa or Vietnam can host next year.


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Postby Beta » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:24 pm

doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
blunderer wrote:
MariaAndreina wrote:
Wow.


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Where is that picture from? The US?


Definitely the US. We have a very dark history regarding race and people with these beliefs still exist (look at our president and his supporters).


I beg to differ. The US is the hotbed of tolerance, moreso than any part of the world. Let's not paint with broad strokes here - this website alone exemplifies just how far the rest of the world still needs to go. Blaming the president and his supporters, of which I am BTW - will not fit your narrative, no matter how you present it.


Well I definitely beg to differ from what I have witnessed from people around me my entire life. We can agree to disagree.

absolutely! our views are shaped by our experiences, after all!
don't get me wrong - i have experienced these instances, both being a minority and a lot of times the lone female in a male-dominated field. however, i've also been afforded the best of opportunities due to my own merit alone, which speaks volumes IMHO.


There's nothing sadder than a minority woman supporting Trump, who also says Trump is not part of the racism problem in America.


so be sad all you want -
the great thing is, people like you don't get to tell me how to think, how to act or what to do. I've always been in charge of that, and damn proud of it - it's how I've overcome and continue to overcome adversities. If you chastise me because I don't think like you, then that's on you.
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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby doce » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:46 pm

Beta wrote:
doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
blunderer wrote:
MariaAndreina wrote:
Wow.


Image


Where is that picture from? The US?


Definitely the US. We have a very dark history regarding race and people with these beliefs still exist (look at our president and his supporters).


I beg to differ. The US is the hotbed of tolerance, moreso than any part of the world. Let's not paint with broad strokes here - this website alone exemplifies just how far the rest of the world still needs to go. Blaming the president and his supporters, of which I am BTW - will not fit your narrative, no matter how you present it.


Well I definitely beg to differ from what I have witnessed from people around me my entire life. We can agree to disagree.

absolutely! our views are shaped by our experiences, after all!
don't get me wrong - i have experienced these instances, both being a minority and a lot of times the lone female in a male-dominated field. however, i've also been afforded the best of opportunities due to my own merit alone, which speaks volumes IMHO.


There's nothing sadder than a minority woman supporting Trump, who also says Trump is not part of the racism problem in America.


so be sad all you want -
the great thing is, people like you don't get to tell me how to think, how to act or what to do. I've always been in charge of that, and damn proud of it - it's how I've overcome and continue to overcome adversities. If you chastise me because I don't think like you, then that's on you.


Who asked you to think like me? I didn't.

It's clear to me that you are selfish and so full of yourself, that's why you're "so damn proud of it". You only care about YOU, never mind the people who have been hurt by Trump and the Republicans in America.
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Postby yellowyam1 » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:50 pm

The new queen is getting so much publicity for miss universe this is what they needed to save the pageant in the USA. The black girl magic and she looks like me theme is catching on like wild fire. I think this was what the miss universe org wanted they knew crowning SA would have given them a lot of coverage. Hopefully they take advantage of this and not waste her like they do the other past queens.
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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby Beta » Tue Dec 10, 2019 10:52 pm

doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
blunderer wrote:
MariaAndreina wrote:
Wow.


Image


Where is that picture from? The US?


Definitely the US. We have a very dark history regarding race and people with these beliefs still exist (look at our president and his supporters).


I beg to differ. The US is the hotbed of tolerance, moreso than any part of the world. Let's not paint with broad strokes here - this website alone exemplifies just how far the rest of the world still needs to go. Blaming the president and his supporters, of which I am BTW - will not fit your narrative, no matter how you present it.


Well I definitely beg to differ from what I have witnessed from people around me my entire life. We can agree to disagree.

absolutely! our views are shaped by our experiences, after all!
don't get me wrong - i have experienced these instances, both being a minority and a lot of times the lone female in a male-dominated field. however, i've also been afforded the best of opportunities due to my own merit alone, which speaks volumes IMHO.


There's nothing sadder than a minority woman supporting Trump, who also says Trump is not part of the racism problem in America.


so be sad all you want -
the great thing is, people like you don't get to tell me how to think, how to act or what to do. I've always been in charge of that, and damn proud of it - it's how I've overcome and continue to overcome adversities. If you chastise me because I don't think like you, then that's on you.


Who asked you to think like me? I didn't.

It's clear to me that you are selfish and so full of yourself, that's why you're "so damn proud of it". You only care about YOU, never mind the people who have been hurt by Trump and the Republicans in America.


Puhleez --- you don't know me and I'm flabbergasted that you're insisting that you do.
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Postby blunderer » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:35 am

Queen of the Clouds wrote:
The Duchess wrote:I think with the passing of the days (which is why my review will come later, I am not mad or have any particular feeling at Zuzibini winning but what Miss Universe and MUO has become. I don't know if I'm the only one. Like while I don't find Zuzibini like stunning, I get why she won given the format of the show... but overall this edition of Miss Universe was kind of a dumpster fire.


The MUO doesn't have enough money to put on a show. What I'm guessing is happening is that IMG is providing the MUO with a budget that can put on a show like what we saw this year or the one in 2017 because the MUO does not generate enough revenue to warrant a bigger budget, and the MUO is struggling to find American sponsors to make up the difference. So the MUO can only put on big grandiose shows when they go abroad and get international sponsors/financial assistance in countries that care about pageantry. Every time an international deal falls through we'll be stuck with a pageant like this (or even worse), until IMG sells MUO (assuming the new buyer will treat it better) or the MUO can pick up some actually helpful American sponsorships. Really hoping maybe South Africa or Vietnam can host next year.


Let us hope then that it gets to be hosted abroad most of the time.
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Postby blunderer » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:37 am

doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
doce wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
Beta wrote:
Queen of the Clouds wrote:
blunderer wrote:
MariaAndreina wrote:
Wow.


Image


Where is that picture from? The US?


Definitely the US. We have a very dark history regarding race and people with these beliefs still exist (look at our president and his supporters).


I beg to differ. The US is the hotbed of tolerance, moreso than any part of the world. Let's not paint with broad strokes here - this website alone exemplifies just how far the rest of the world still needs to go. Blaming the president and his supporters, of which I am BTW - will not fit your narrative, no matter how you present it.


Well I definitely beg to differ from what I have witnessed from people around me my entire life. We can agree to disagree.

absolutely! our views are shaped by our experiences, after all!
don't get me wrong - i have experienced these instances, both being a minority and a lot of times the lone female in a male-dominated field. however, i've also been afforded the best of opportunities due to my own merit alone, which speaks volumes IMHO.


There's nothing sadder than a minority woman supporting Trump, who also says Trump is not part of the racism problem in America.


so be sad all you want -
the great thing is, people like you don't get to tell me how to think, how to act or what to do. I've always been in charge of that, and damn proud of it - it's how I've overcome and continue to overcome adversities. If you chastise me because I don't think like you, then that's on you.


Who asked you to think like me? I didn't.

It's clear to me that you are selfish and so full of yourself, that's why you're "so damn proud of it". You only care about YOU, never mind the people who have been hurt by Trump and the Republicans in America.


How did we get from having a good conversation to suddenly attacking someone just because they have a political view?
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Postby Kukay » Wed Dec 11, 2019 12:49 am

Queen of Clouds is going berserker.
Geez
I like Trump and I will vote for Trump .
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Postby blunderer » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:03 am

Kukay wrote:Queen of Clouds is going berserker.
Geez
I like Trump and I will vote for Trump .


If you read it again, Queen and Beta are having an intelligent conversation, then someone jumps in and attacked Beta personally just because she has a political view.
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Postby Kukay » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:09 am

blunderer wrote:
Kukay wrote:Queen of Clouds is going berserker.
Geez
I like Trump and I will vote for Trump .


If you read it again, Queen and Beta are having an intelligent conversation, then someone jumps in and attacked Beta personally just because she has a political view.


Just so you know ...
Hillary Clinton insulted the supporters of Trump and had to apologize for it .
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Postby Queen of the Clouds » Wed Dec 11, 2019 1:22 am

Kukay wrote:
blunderer wrote:
Kukay wrote:Queen of Clouds is going berserker.
Geez
I like Trump and I will vote for Trump .


If you read it again, Queen and Beta are having an intelligent conversation, then someone jumps in and attacked Beta personally just because she has a political view.


Just so you know ...
Hillary Clinton insulted the supporters of Trump and had to apologize for it .


Please learn some reading comprehension. I never attacked anyone for their political views, that was someone else. And also Hillary Clinton has nothing to do with this. I am not a fan of either of them, thank you and let's move on.
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Postby Kukay » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:24 am

I will vote for Trump .
And you can’t do anything about it .
Ha ha
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Postby taleyblue » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:26 am

She's a powerful Miss Universe!!2 millions follower now!!ImageImage
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:36 am

I will never understand the "but Hilary" "but Obama" mentality =;))

Vote for whoever you want, that is your right and if Drumfp is president again well then that just reflects the state the US is in. Its your choice who to vote for, noone is telling you what to do. But try to stay on topic instead of bringing in names from people who are irrelevant to the conversation
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Postby Kukay » Wed Dec 11, 2019 2:45 am

But ... but ... but
Obama deported way more people than Trump
Statistics don’t lie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... story.html

Yup .
It’s all a farce .
US of A is against illegal immigration no matter who is the sitting president .
Fact .
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Postby The Duchess » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:21 am

Kukay wrote:But ... but ... but
Obama deported way more people than Trump
Statistics don’t lie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... story.html

Yup .
It’s all a farce .
US of A is against illegal immigration no matter who is the sitting president .
Fact .


So because Cheeto doesn't deport as many kids we should somehow ignore everything else? =;)) His wall isn't even the most dangerous precedent he wants to push foward =;)) I can be an intolerant human being but as long as I do a couple decent things on the side, I get a pass?
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Postby taleyblue » Wed Dec 11, 2019 3:31 am

So much personality from South Africa![youtube]WwKKQ3HTb-g[/youtube]
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Postby yellowyam1 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:03 am

taleyblue wrote:She's a powerful Miss Universe!!2 millions follower now!!ImageImage


Yea that’s crazy miss universe knew what they were doing. Hopefully she gets some work from Tyler Perry and Oprah
This exposure that the miss universe team needed
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Postby Queen of the Clouds » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:14 am

The Duchess wrote:
Kukay wrote:But ... but ... but
Obama deported way more people than Trump
Statistics don’t lie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... story.html

Yup .
It’s all a farce .
US of A is against illegal immigration no matter who is the sitting president .
Fact .


So because Cheeto doesn't deport as many kids we should somehow ignore everything else? =;)) His wall isn't even the most dangerous precedent he wants to push foward =;)) I can be an intolerant human being but as long as I do a couple decent things on the side, I get a pass?


Don't even humor him. He knows he's making no sense he just wants to get a rise out of people.
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Postby Kukay » Wed Dec 11, 2019 4:30 am

The Duchess wrote:
Kukay wrote:But ... but ... but
Obama deported way more people than Trump
Statistics don’t lie.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/immigrat ... story.html

Yup .
It’s all a farce .
US of A is against illegal immigration no matter who is the sitting president .
Fact .


So because Cheeto doesn't deport as many kids we should somehow ignore everything else? =;)) His wall isn't even the most dangerous precedent he wants to push foward =;)) I can be an intolerant human being but as long as I do a couple decent things on the side, I get a pass?


Wall schmall .
Who cares about that wall ?
The cohorts of El Chapo will just dig tunnels underneath it .

As long as the US economy is strong I’m fine with Trump .
And enough of NATO allies cheating the US . They should pay the agreed amount of money for THEIR OWN PROTECTION.
America first ! Democrats are not even complaining about the US trade war with China . Enough is enough with these countries taking advantage of US generosity .
The US military having the biggest budget ever is awesome . Russia already developed the most powerful missile called Satan 2.
Israel getting $ 2.8 billion a year military aid actually has biblical implications. It’s the biggest military aid in US history .
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Postby bdee » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:26 am

The Alchemist wrote:Across all Social Media Platforms, Filipinos are celebrating the victory of South Africa! They understood what she said and felt her sincerity.


This made me so happy. Perhaps so happy that I forgot Gazinis exclusion in the top 10 right away.

We are a decent and compassionate people. Not shallow

Mabuhay PHILIPPINES


Hmmm...I'm not surprised. I think Zozibini's win actually parallels Sushmita Sen's win back in the 90s. Sushmita was also considered not conventionally beautiful but spoke with so much heart. Her runners-up were heavy favourites from Latin America and also had the goods; however, both Sushmita and Zozibini nailed their final answers. I think, to this day (evident after I saw the 2016 Miss Universe edition), Filipinos still consider her as one of the best Miss Universe winners. They probably love her because of the way she delivered her final answer.
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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby lee_xhung143 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:27 am

Sa ibang balita, our queen is back here in the Philippines! May God bless her with more blessings! :"> :-*

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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby bdee » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:37 am

taleyblue wrote:
JamesCedricLim wrote:
taleyblue wrote:Thailand is Thailand!!wow the gown is amazing!! Paweensuda won't win but she is the Queen diva of the night!the most strogest stage presence of miss Thailand in Miss Universe ever! !! >:)
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She did a good performance last night however the competition was really tough to windstand the towering South Africa, Puerto Rico and Mexico, even USA & Colombia who are both Lawyers by profession were eclipsed by these three giants.

It just sad that Thailand had it in the bag eversince she became MUT, but top 5 finished was great. For sure there will be more windows of opportunity that will be open to her in the future. Thailand 2017 and 2019 were both crown worthy. Keep improving who knows maybe in the couple of years you will get your turn.
her styling and stage presence in evening gown kill her chance!yes it seems great stage presence but for me it's too fierce the make up too strong,i don't like the thai team tried to make her become this very fiece girl!i really love her in swimsuit!and i think the judges also love her in swimsuit more than in evening gown!she need to give a natural smiling not that fierceness diva attitude! it's not a looks of a winner in IMG era!even trump era i never see that strong make up win the crown!


I don't know, taleyblue. She still got through to the Top 5 after the Evening Gown and the Swimsuit Round. It really was her answer to the Top 5 Question that sealed the deal for her. In order for Thailand to get its 3rd crown, they need to get through the interview round - it hasn't happened yet! Hoping the Thai team can find better communication trainers.
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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby JamesCedricLim » Wed Dec 11, 2019 6:39 am

taleyblue wrote:
JamesCedricLim wrote:
taleyblue wrote:Thailand is Thailand!!wow the gown is amazing!! Paweensuda won't win but she is the Queen diva of the night!the most strogest stage presence of miss Thailand in Miss Universe ever! !! >:)
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She did a good performance last night however the competition was really tough to windstand the towering South Africa, Puerto Rico and Mexico, even USA & Colombia who are both Lawyers by profession were eclipsed by these three giants.

It just sad that Thailand had it in the bag eversince she became MUT, but top 5 finished was great. For sure there will be more windows of opportunity that will be open to her in the future. Thailand 2017 and 2019 were both crown worthy. Keep improving who knows maybe in the couple of years you will get your turn.
her styling and stage presence in evening gown kill her chance!yes it seems great stage presence but for me it's too fierce the make up too strong,i don't like the thai team tried to make her become this very fiece girl!i really love her in swimsuit!and i think the judges also love her in swimsuit more than in evening gown!she need to give a natural smiling not that fierceness diva attitude! it's not a looks of a winner in IMG era!even trump era i never see that strong make up win the crown!


I also doesnt like her gown it was too busy and not proportion with her body. If she chose to wear white down it might have been different, but anyways she reached top 5. I think the only problem is her thought while answering the questions. She should make a stand and not go around the bush. This is a eye opener to your Thai team.
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Postby bukita » Wed Dec 11, 2019 7:34 am

Congrats to SA! Zozini is so unique and powerful.
For Fahsai, happy for her place. You did so great and make us proud.
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Postby bukita » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:17 am

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Postby Arduina » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:58 am

It's always nice to see the many friendships girls are developping each year :)
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Postby nycla2 » Wed Dec 11, 2019 8:59 am

Passing of the Miss Universe crowns (DIC, Mikimoto and MUOWAD)under IMG in the last 4 years, 2 South African queens , 2 Filipina queens and 1 French queen :7
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Re: ▲▼▲ SOUTH AFRICA IS MISS UNIVERSE 2019 ▲▼▲

Postby taleyblue » Wed Dec 11, 2019 9:25 am

JamesCedricLim wrote:
taleyblue wrote:
JamesCedricLim wrote:
taleyblue wrote:Thailand is Thailand!!wow the gown is amazing!! Paweensuda won't win but she is the Queen diva of the night!the most strogest stage presence of miss Thailand in Miss Universe ever! !! >:)
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She did a good performance last night however the competition was really tough to windstand the towering South Africa, Puerto Rico and Mexico, even USA & Colombia who are both Lawyers by profession were eclipsed by these three giants.

It just sad that Thailand had it in the bag eversince she became MUT, but top 5 finished was great. For sure there will be more windows of opportunity that will be open to her in the future. Thailand 2017 and 2019 were both crown worthy. Keep improving who knows maybe in the couple of years you will get your turn.
her styling and stage presence in evening gown kill her chance!yes it seems great stage presence but for me it's too fierce the make up too strong,i don't like the thai team tried to make her become this very fiece girl!i really love her in swimsuit!and i think the judges also love her in swimsuit more than in evening gown!she need to give a natural smiling not that fierceness diva attitude! it's not a looks of a winner in IMG era!even trump era i never see that strong make up win the crown!


I also doesnt like her gown it was too busy and not proportion with her body. If she chose to wear white down it might have been different, but anyways she reached top 5. I think the only problem is her thought while answering the questions. She should make a stand and not go around the bush. This is a eye opener to your Thai team.
even she answered good question still she won't make it to the top3 because others answered good too!then the judges will judges from physical the looks!first impression!Thailand's make up is terrible! @-) she's become a fierce bitch looking but angel mind inside!so opposite with her real personality!!the moment she walked out in evening gown i was shocked!my excitement from swimsuit round that she was the best suddenly stop!!but i need to fake my feeling& disappointed to think Thailand will win it all!!
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