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Postby divine_nymph » Sun Dec 30, 2018 6:23 am

    

I like this idea...I love the proportion or percentage of the races presented here in this suggestion who should be chosen to sit as judges to a beauty pageant such as Miss Earth. We will know who will truly shines the most - a stand out who will linger in your mind for a long time. I also like the taste of these races when it comes to beauty contests. It is also a great idea to have personalities other than your own people or race judge an Asian or Filipino owned pageant as this can also generate interests and avoiding too much favoritism of your own race but yields "EXCITING" and "SUSPENSEFUL" results.

I like it if most of the preliminary judges were PURE BLOODED Latinos, Americans and Europeans - at least 40% of all preliminary judges were Latinos, 20% Americans and 10% were Europeans, 10% Africans and the rest are Filipinos or Asians. In the finals, I want the telecast judges would be 40% Latinos, 20% Americans, 10% Europeans, 10% Africans and 20% Filipinos or Asians. There were at least 15 judges. I like Latinos and Americans preferences when it comes to selecting a BEAUTY QUEEN!

I am just sharing my noble suggestion taken from someone else with noble intentions and I think this is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE!




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Postby beautywatchnyc » Sun Dec 30, 2018 8:47 am



You are not an influencer and you have no clout to even make a dent. I think that you had this post published a while back. While you made extra effort in reposting, you are in no position to dictate your "whim or caprice" for the organizers to take notice. As a matter of suggestion, your points are well-taken..

It is within the organizers' purview that selection of the judging criteria or composition of the panel of judges is farther from the convenience of a "spur of a moment" decision. I can assure you that considerable time is being expended in determining the factors and weighted averages that go into the overall criteria. It takes excruciating effort on the part of the organizers to weed out any probability that might skew the score sheet to favor a certain delegate or group.

A beauty pageant organization allocates scant resources and valuable time with agonized conscience (as a matter of choice!) in determining the factors and the corresponding weighted averages as criteria for judging. A pageant organization will need to appoint varied personalities with a proven track record of integrity, industry reputation or professional competence spiked with a modicum of success in his respective field of expertise or specialization, to sbe qualified in the panel of judges. The services of a statistician or actuarial specialist may even be engaged to assess the set of verifiable criteria and to evaluate the predetermined corresponding points and weighted averages attributed to each factor. Add, a prospective panelist will undergo a cumbersome background "check" to ascertain particular "bias or prejudice" that may have an adverse effect, hence, affect objective judgement for that matter.

What might you think right for Ms Earth to adopt or any pageant organization to heed, is to me, presumptuous and intrusive if not outright sanctimonious, and frankly, an affront to and over-the-top in my personal opinion.
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Postby divine_nymph » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:00 pm

This is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE and LEGIT!
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Re: CONTINENTAL REPRESENTATION / DIVERSITY AS JUDGES IN ME

Postby divine_nymph » Wed Jan 02, 2019 4:09 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:

You are not an influencer and you have no clout to even make a dent. I think that you had this post published a while back. While you made extra effort in reposting, you are in no position to dictate your "whim or caprice" for the organizers to take notice. As a matter of suggestion, your points are well-taken..

It is within the organizers' purview that selection of the judging criteria or composition of the panel of judges is farther from the convenience of a "spur of a moment" decision. I can assure you that considerable time is being expended in determining the factors and weighted averages that go into the overall criteria. It takes excruciating effort on the part of the organizers to weed out any probability that might skew the score sheet to favor a certain delegate or group.

A beauty pageant organization allocates scant resources and valuable time with agonized conscience (as a matter of choice!) in determining the factors and the corresponding weighted averages as criteria for judging. A pageant organization will need to appoint varied personalities with a proven track record of integrity, industry reputation or professional competence spiked with a modicum of success in his respective field of expertise or specialization, to sbe qualified in the panel of judges. The services of a statistician or actuarial specialist may even be engaged to assess the set of verifiable criteria and to evaluate the predetermined corresponding points and weighted averages attributed to each factor. Add, a prospective panelist will undergo a cumbersome background "check" to ascertain particular "bias or prejudice" that may have an adverse effect, hence, affect objective judgement for that matter.

What might you think right for Ms Earth to adopt or any pageant organization to heed, is to me, presumptuous and intrusive if not outright sanctimonious, and frankly, an affront to and over-the-top in my personal opinion.



Woahh you don't need to be rude just because you are against someone else suggestion and you abhor good changes and pure suggestions that you go ballistic. Is there something you are hiding that makes you totally MAD and WILD over this suggestion? I am just sharing my noble suggestion taken from someone else with noble intentions and I think this is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE!
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Re: CONTINENTAL REPRESENTATION / DIVERSITY AS JUDGES IN ME

Postby beautywatchnyc » Wed Jan 02, 2019 7:00 pm

divine_nymph wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

You are not an influencer and you have no clout to even make a dent. I think that you had this post published a while back. While you made extra effort in reposting, you are in no position to dictate your "whim or caprice" for the organizers to take notice. As a matter of suggestion, your points are well-taken..

It is within the organizers' purview that selection of the judging criteria or composition of the panel of judges is farther from the convenience of a "spur of a moment" decision. I can assure you that considerable time is being expended in determining the factors and weighted averages that go into the overall criteria. It takes excruciating effort on the part of the organizers to weed out any probability that might skew the score sheet to favor a certain delegate or group.

A beauty pageant organization allocates scant resources and valuable time with agonized conscience (as a matter of choice!) in determining the factors and the corresponding weighted averages as criteria for judging. A pageant organization will need to appoint varied personalities with a proven track record of integrity, industry reputation or professional competence spiked with a modicum of success in his respective field of expertise or specialization, to sbe qualified in the panel of judges. The services of a statistician or actuarial specialist may even be engaged to assess the set of verifiable criteria and to evaluate the predetermined corresponding points and weighted averages attributed to each factor. Add, a prospective panelist will undergo a cumbersome background "check" to ascertain particular "bias or prejudice" that may have an adverse effect, hence, affect objective judgement for that matter.

What might you think right for Ms Earth to adopt or any pageant organization to heed, is to me, presumptuous and intrusive if not outright sanctimonious, and frankly, an affront to and over-the-top in my personal opinion.



Woahh you don't need to be rude just because you are against someone else suggestion and you abhor good changes and pure suggestions that you go ballistic. Is there something you are hiding that makes you totally MAD and WILD over this suggestion? I am just sharing my noble suggestion taken from someone else with noble intentions and I think this is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE!



You posted a message, expect readers to fire back a reply. You don't expect every one to be nice when you hurled curved balls, nor toe your line of thinking because everyone has a say. You're not the only one who's entitled. neither have you the monopoly of what's best for Ms Earth. If you feel discomforted, the problem is yours. I didn't mean to disparage but to make you aware that there are alternative opinions outside your own.

Let me restate: "Believable and legit"! And you want silence?
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Re: CONTINENTAL REPRESENTATION / DIVERSITY AS JUDGES IN ME

Postby divine_nymph » Thu Jan 03, 2019 4:28 am

beautywatchnyc wrote:
divine_nymph wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

You are not an influencer and you have no clout to even make a dent. I think that you had this post published a while back. While you made extra effort in reposting, you are in no position to dictate your "whim or caprice" for the organizers to take notice. As a matter of suggestion, your points are well-taken..

It is within the organizers' purview that selection of the judging criteria or composition of the panel of judges is farther from the convenience of a "spur of a moment" decision. I can assure you that considerable time is being expended in determining the factors and weighted averages that go into the overall criteria. It takes excruciating effort on the part of the organizers to weed out any probability that might skew the score sheet to favor a certain delegate or group.

A beauty pageant organization allocates scant resources and valuable time with agonized conscience (as a matter of choice!) in determining the factors and the corresponding weighted averages as criteria for judging. A pageant organization will need to appoint varied personalities with a proven track record of integrity, industry reputation or professional competence spiked with a modicum of success in his respective field of expertise or specialization, to sbe qualified in the panel of judges. The services of a statistician or actuarial specialist may even be engaged to assess the set of verifiable criteria and to evaluate the predetermined corresponding points and weighted averages attributed to each factor. Add, a prospective panelist will undergo a cumbersome background "check" to ascertain particular "bias or prejudice" that may have an adverse effect, hence, affect objective judgement for that matter.

What might you think right for Ms Earth to adopt or any pageant organization to heed, is to me, presumptuous and intrusive if not outright sanctimonious, and frankly, an affront to and over-the-top in my personal opinion.



Woahh you don't need to be rude just because you are against someone else suggestion and you abhor good changes and pure suggestions that you go ballistic. Is there something you are hiding that makes you totally MAD and WILD over this suggestion? I am just sharing my noble suggestion taken from someone else with noble intentions and I think this is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE!



You posted a message, expect readers to fire back a reply. You don't expect every one to be nice when you hurled curved balls, nor toe your line of thinking because everyone has a say. You're not the only one who's entitled. neither have you the monopoly of what's best for Ms Earth. If you feel discomforted, the problem is yours. I didn't mean to disparage but to make you aware that there are alternative opinions outside your own.

Let me restate: "Believable and legit"! And you want silence?


Well you do not need to attack me and be so rude and mean if you are NOT HIDING ANYTHING AGAINST THIS NOBLE IDEA OR SUGGESTION... why are you so ballistic? is there something you are hiding that you are so furious against this BRILLIANT IDEA and GOOD CHANGES?
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Re: CONTINENTAL REPRESENTATION / DIVERSITY AS JUDGES IN ME

Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Jan 03, 2019 6:31 am

divine_nymph wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:
divine_nymph wrote:
beautywatchnyc wrote:

You are not an influencer and you have no clout to even make a dent. I think that you had this post published a while back. While you made extra effort in reposting, you are in no position to dictate your "whim or caprice" for the organizers to take notice. As a matter of suggestion, your points are well-taken..

It is within the organizers' purview that selection of the judging criteria or composition of the panel of judges is farther from the convenience of a "spur of a moment" decision. I can assure you that considerable time is being expended in determining the factors and weighted averages that go into the overall criteria. It takes excruciating effort on the part of the organizers to weed out any probability that might skew the score sheet to favor a certain delegate or group.

A beauty pageant organization allocates scant resources and valuable time with agonized conscience (as a matter of choice!) in determining the factors and the corresponding weighted averages as criteria for judging. A pageant organization will need to appoint varied personalities with a proven track record of integrity, industry reputation or professional competence spiked with a modicum of success in his respective field of expertise or specialization, to sbe qualified in the panel of judges. The services of a statistician or actuarial specialist may even be engaged to assess the set of verifiable criteria and to evaluate the predetermined corresponding points and weighted averages attributed to each factor. Add, a prospective panelist will undergo a cumbersome background "check" to ascertain particular "bias or prejudice" that may have an adverse effect, hence, affect objective judgement for that matter.

What might you think right for Ms Earth to adopt or any pageant organization to heed, is to me, presumptuous and intrusive if not outright sanctimonious, and frankly, an affront to and over-the-top in my personal opinion.



Woahh you don't need to be rude just because you are against someone else suggestion and you abhor good changes and pure suggestions that you go ballistic. Is there something you are hiding that makes you totally MAD and WILD over this suggestion? I am just sharing my noble suggestion taken from someone else with noble intentions and I think this is the only way to make this pageant BELIEVABLE!



You posted a message, expect readers to fire back a reply. You don't expect every one to be nice when you hurled curved balls, nor toe your line of thinking because everyone has a say. You're not the only one who's entitled. neither have you the monopoly of what's best for Ms Earth. If you feel discomforted, the problem is yours. I didn't mean to disparage but to make you aware that there are alternative opinions outside your own.

Let me restate: "Believable and legit"! And you want silence?


Well you do not need to attack me and be so rude and mean if you are NOT HIDING ANYTHING AGAINST THIS NOBLE IDEA OR SUGGESTION... why are you so ballistic? is there something you are hiding that you are so furious against this BRILLIANT IDEA and GOOD CHANGES?


Dude, don't be onion-skinned. I made a statement against your views without denigrating your persona. Why should I attack a person I don't even know? I have no stake in Ms Earth with nothing to gain personally if I make a stand. Stop your baseless assumptions re my support for MEO; it doesn't make you chivalrous you rather look ridiculous.

You started an issue that you can't even support when I begun to question your motives. And now you're playing the victim? If you don't like your opinion called out, stop throwing shade. Better still, stop posting! Are we not in a public fora? You're not the only one who keeps a strong view! Iba ang gusto sa pupuwede, yan tagalog na yan!

I'm here in Misso since 2001 my record would speak for that. I react only if not given a fair and just hearing. If you want to be heard, go ahead and contact Carousel and discuss your ideas with them. But don't expect readers to stay silent if they have something else to say. You've seen worse. What you've meant to establish in the onset is debatable and not an exception to the norm!
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Postby divine_nymph » Mon Mar 11, 2019 4:06 pm

Well if you have nothing to hide and if the system is transparent, exciting and thrilling the pageant and the organization is open to fairness, equality and most importantly diversity and the concept, definition and standard of beauty by many international fans then you would not object and no feisty resistance or whatsoever excuses to this noble suggestion. I think this is a great idea to please the international fans to show that the organization are receptive to what they want and what is pleasing to the eyes let alone what they can do to serve. Beauty is subjective as it is objective and physical beauty is one of them and should not be left out as this is one of the definition and the very reason why people watch "BEAUTY pageants" it's entertainment value tradition and most of all institution.
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Postby divine_nymph » Wed Mar 13, 2019 12:24 pm

Why Miss Earth winner is not among the reigning internatonal queens invited to various national pageants. SIMPLE: These organizations don't value or give importance to Miss Earth since they are not receptive to the ideas and clamor of international pageant fans community including the JUDGES DIVERSITY suggestions because they already know some nasty things behind why the results of the contest are like these - nastier than politics and more about influence and who's who. It fell on deaf ears because of the nasty things behind the contest. If you respect and appreciate your "INTERNATIONAL" pageant fans you could have heed the suggestions and implement it not just your local domestic pageant fans. I know that there is something fishy why these things could not implemented nastier than politics more about influence and who's who by making us such lame excuses but we know there is nasty things behind it. You could not digest the truth barely even swallow your ego and pride.

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Postby divine_nymph » Thu Jul 25, 2019 1:19 pm

We just want the countries in the global community get involve in the selection process of Miss Earth so they will feel valued, appreciated and get involved in choosing the winners and also we want a diverse set of Miss Earth winners coming from different continents of different colors and races and not just Asia or the Americas. This is one way of showing that they are involve in choosing a Miss Earth queen by having representations in the judging panel both in the preliminary and final telecast.
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Postby divine_nymph » Wed Sep 25, 2019 7:20 am

This is still the best option for representation, have a fair and square competition and make this pageant BELIEVABLE... Unless this format is implemented, the presence of international pageant community or the foreign pageant fans is not really felt. At the moment, mostly Filipinos are following closely this pageant.
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Postby beautywatchnyc » Thu Sep 26, 2019 4:52 am

divine_nymph wrote:This is still the best option for representation, have a fair and square competition and make this pageant BELIEVABLE... Unless this format is implemented, the presence of international pageant community or the foreign pageant fans is not really felt. At the moment, mostly Filipinos are following closely this pageant.


If Ms earth is not believable, and against your personal belief system, why are you following it? You have a choice. Drop it from your viewing list and watch only those pageants that titillate your fancies. As simple as that!

If you want your suggestion heard, go discuss your stand with MEO -- their decision makers may make things happen. It pays to get reminded that you are in a public fora and I'm afraid your message will remain as such as no one here has the authority to effect changes on the existing policies. What a pity because no matter how much you try at organizing a following, your personal views simply do not resonate nor do they even make a dent.
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Re: CONTINENTAL REPRESENTATION / DIVERSITY AS JUDGES IN ME

Postby divine_nymph » Thu Sep 26, 2019 1:31 pm

beautywatchnyc wrote:
divine_nymph wrote:This is still the best option for representation, have a fair and square competition and make this pageant BELIEVABLE... Unless this format is implemented, the presence of international pageant community or the foreign pageant fans is not really felt. At the moment, mostly Filipinos are following closely this pageant.


If Ms earth is not believable, and against your personal belief system, why are you following it? You have a choice. Drop it from your viewing list and watch only those pageants that titillate your fancies. As simple as that!

If you want your suggestion heard, go discuss your stand with MEO -- their decision makers may make things happen. It pays to get reminded that you are in a public fora and I'm afraid your message will remain as such as no one here has the authority to effect changes on the existing policies. What a pity because no matter how much you try at organizing a following, your personal views simply do not resonate nor do they even make a dent.


I already contacted today the Miss Earth Organization on this concern.
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