hauteegirl wrote:By performance, Janine won over Olivia by miles. By beauty, Olivia wins. If the typical MUO gives crown to whoever answer it the best in Miss Universe final night then Janine indeed was ROBBED!
bloomfield wrote:Sorry ........ Janine nailed the final answer. Olivia’s ‘grade school’ answer was just plain blaaahhhh Blaaahhhh blaahhhh !!!!
MissSimUniverse wrote:bloomfield wrote:Sorry ........ Janine nailed the final answer. Olivia’s ‘grade school’ answer was just plain blaaahhhh Blaaahhhh blaahhhh !!!!
Olivia's question was blah... she did the best she could with such a lame question. Still, it's not what she said but how she said it. She's very charismatic, charming and natural. That's a win mix.
In my opinion Olivia won because she was far more beautiful and had more charisma, that's it.
vinusya wrote:Olivia's answer was better. She did a good explanation.
hauteegirl wrote:vinusya wrote:Olivia's answer was better. She did a good explanation.
Not true, watch the final Q&A again. she even frowned and u can see it on her face that she made a contradictory ending to her initial answer. she was confused to her own answer and that's already coming from an english speaking born individual.
bcdf1930 wrote:JANINE HAD THE EASIEST QUESTION IN THE TOP 5 AND OLIVIA HAD THE HARDEST ONE!
OLIVIA'S QUESTION IS SIMILAR TO VENUS RAJ'S QUESTION...WHILE ONE BECAME 4TH RUNNERUP, THE OTHER BECAME THE WINNER...THE DIFFERENCE LIES IN THEIR ANSWERS
Jon A wrote:I personally don't agree with the comments about Janine. I think she is certainly free to have her own dreams - whether they reside in the Philippines or Japan or USA is her own choice. Nothing wrong with it! And I admire her for having that clarity of vision and the ambition and drive to go after it! I don't think any of us should be judging her! As long as she was sincere about her preparations for her international competition and acquitted herself with grace through it, she gets an A+ from me. And she certainly did!! Her results were well deserved but my point is that even if she had not placed, I would still have had great respect for her! Results are out of your control -- history is LITTERED with exceptional, deserving candidates who were ignored (and mediocre girls who did well, conversely) -- but what you put is not only in in your control, but I daresay, your obligation!
Now, onto the question of why she lost to Olivia Culpo -- more than anything else, I would say it is just luck and subjective tastes. Happens ALL the time. Take 2018 -- as perfect as Cat was, change the jury and venue and Tamaryn Green could have won. That's just how it goes. Not always, but on some occasions, you have two equally deserving girls and one has to win. So I do think luck had the most to do with it. If one really has to parse it, I thought Janine spoke better, but Olivia had the more beautiful face. In particular, Olivia's beauty and personality is the type that appeals to Americans (and my grouse with Miss Universe has always been the predominantly American (or American propaganda washed) jury). As unappealing as she was to most of us pageant fans, I remember watching Miss Universe 2012 with a large group of non-pageant American friends and from the minute she stepped on stage, they loved her and in particular, they loved her answer. So there you have it!! If you MUST look beyond luck, that is the reason. But nothing to do with Janine's (lack of) character or anything -- there is no way MUO is going to allow a girl who they are not willing to accept as a Miss Universe to get to the top 5.
vinusya wrote:hauteegirl wrote:vinusya wrote:Olivia's answer was better. She did a good explanation.
Not true, watch the final Q&A again. she even frowned and u can see it on her face that she made a contradictory ending to her initial answer. she was confused to her own answer and that's already coming from an english speaking born individual.
when you speak without pause, it means your speech is memorized.
that was a drama that she didn’t want to talk about because that’s her family member she was talking about. she was very confident
MissSimUniverse wrote:bloomfield wrote:Sorry ........ Janine nailed the final answer. Olivia’s ‘grade school’ answer was just plain blaaahhhh Blaaahhhh blaahhhh !!!!
Olivia's question was blah... she did the best she could with such a lame question. Still, it's not what she said but how she said it. She's very charismatic, charming and natural. That's a win mix.
In my opinion Olivia won because she was far more beautiful and had more charisma, that's it.
poker_man wrote:Janine has always been regarded as the "real" Miss Universe 2012 to many pageant fans (most especially Pinoys of course) but watching these videos proved why she lost and why she is nothing more than an opportunist.
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After disrespecting her boyfriend in national television by saying that she admitted to flirting with The Script frontman Danny while she and her boyfriend were being interviewed, she immediately left to the US to pursue a career.
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In this recent Zoom interview, she mentioned that always wanted to pursue a career in Europe and the US more than anything. She continuously spoke in English (faux accent) as the Pinoy host talked to her in Tagalog. She also mentioned here that Trump does play favorites, which confirmed her statements in an old interview where she said she felt the "special treatment" and that she knew surely that she would make the next cut every time the camera panned towards her during the call outs.
Janine also posted how proud she is to finally get a Permanent Residency in the US.
I used to really root for her as she was my top fave in Bb. Pilipinas 2012 (the very fan-friendly MJ Lastimosa is a sentimental favorite of mine but Janine is a far better package at Miss Universe obviously) but everything Janine projects then and now proves why people are annoyed with Filipinos in general. She tries way too hard to act smart by faking an accent (notice how she continuously speaks in English when she is being asked in Tagalog) and unlike Pia and Catriona, she isn't very diplomatic in expressing her ambitions and sentiments. Don't get me wrong, wanting to be an American isn't something I would judge her for, I mean, Catriona "abandoned" her Australian roots just to represent a stronger sash and eventually win Miss Universe, but there's just something annoying with how Janine comes across as, she has a very entitled demeanor that is really off-putting.
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