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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Clorentine » Sun May 05, 2019 1:43 pm

    

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Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl) >:)



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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though


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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Clorentine » Sun May 05, 2019 1:46 pm

rockondude wrote:Because in the United States right now is trendy to try to empower what they call women of color = giving an unfair advantage to black women because in the past they experience racism so what happens is those average contestants get a unfair advantage over other women is call intersectional feminism and it is really f**k up. good luck going down that hideous rabbit hole. { feminist intersectionality ). So you guys are not gonna see an attractive white, latino or asian Miss USA for a very long time. Those last Miss USA winners are a product of a company trying to change the image of the pageant turning it into Miss america don't know why because everyone hates miss america but the folks at IMG seem to think they need to change Trump formula when in fact what they need to do is double down on it and make it glamorous, elegant and fierce like the pageant was in the 2000s and early 2010



To be clear about miss Puerto Rico and miss south Africa they are Mulatos or what they call MIX women and to be fair they both earn there spot.


Women of color??, what color??


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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 4:50 pm

Clorentine wrote:
sleuth08 wrote:
HARVIN wrote:


2018

Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl) >:)



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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though


Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Beta » Sun May 05, 2019 5:43 pm

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Beta wrote:This is so stupid. What does "black" have anything to do with this? It's about time that people stop having such a myopic view of beauty.


Because it is pissing us off cringeworthy and it is really annoying because they have so much sympathy because of their color the reason for their placement and not just their preliminary performance... other blondes or contestants has stronger backgrounds even yet they place because of their color..they got the sympathy votes. exaggerated political correctness sometimes gives damage more than it helps and it is so annoying and intolerable.. =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/ =O/


I would be one to call out political correctness. I definitely agree that PC sucks.

I haven't watched Miss USA for years because I don't know what in the heck they're looking for.

Now that I see what Cheslie has, I, for one am impressed and that doesn't happen too often. Don't be too quick to call out "sympathy" vote because your idea of beauty isn't in line with others. I happen to think that Cheslie is beautiful. I also happen to put a lot of weight on what a contestant has to offer because any positive ripple effect she can start leaves a lasting impression.

Now that I'm thinking about it maybe Miss USA puts just as much emphasis on purpose as it has on beauty. If this trend continues, you will have more brainy beautiful women wanting to join this cause as THERE IS NOW A CAUSE - and it won't be such a "frilly, useless" past time that it has been over the years.
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Queen of the Clouds » Sun May 05, 2019 6:41 pm

yellowyam1 wrote:
Clorentine wrote:
sleuth08 wrote:
HARVIN wrote:


2018

Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl) >:)



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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though


Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina


Yeah, I was under the impression that Andrea Tovar was a black Afro-Latina. In the United States, she probably would not be considered black (pretty much all Hispanics are grouped together here under one ethnicity unfortunately), but in Colombia's standards she is black. I wasn't sure about Kiara though, but she may be Afro-Latina as well.

I would hesitate to call Miss Haiti a Latina. Also, 95% of Haiti is black. Raquel did have light skin and may have some mixed ancestry, but she is definitely black, as Davina obviously is too. Also yes, Tamaryn Green is not black. She is a member of the Cape Coloureds ethnic group in South Africa, which has mixed white, black, and Indian ancestry. Demi-Leigh also is not white, she is from this same ethnic group, she just appears more white than Tamaryn does.

I do wish though that we can stop focusing on the race of each contestant, and just focus on who they are as an individual.
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 7:30 pm

Queen of the Clouds wrote:
yellowyam1 wrote:
Clorentine wrote:
sleuth08 wrote:
HARVIN wrote:


2018

Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl) >:)



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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though


Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina


Yeah, I was under the impression that Andrea Tovar was a black Afro-Latina. In the United States, she probably would not be considered black (pretty much all Hispanics are grouped together here under one ethnicity unfortunately), but in Colombia's standards she is black. I wasn't sure about Kiara though, but she may be Afro-Latina as well.

I would hesitate to call Miss Haiti a Latina. Also, 95% of Haiti is black. Raquel did have light skin and may have some mixed ancestry, but she is definitely black, as Davina obviously is too. Also yes, Tamaryn Green is not black. She is a member of the Cape Coloureds ethnic group in South Africa, which has mixed white, black, and Indian ancestry. Demi-Leigh also is not white, she is from this same ethnic group, she just appears more white than Tamaryn does.

I do wish though that we can stop focusing on the race of each contestant, and just focus on who they are as an individual.


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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Lafeadamadelaindia » Sun May 05, 2019 8:09 pm

Yes, we should not focus on people’s races — just on them as individuals and their beauty; after all these are BEAUTY pageants. If we did that, IMG couldn’t use race anymore to undeserving place a lot of these controversial Thesis Beauties!
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby GoBrazil » Sun May 05, 2019 10:29 pm

The question is already a mistake. You should ask yourself how many black girls have YOU seen had won Miss Universe in IMG era? How many Miss USA has advanced to the top 5 in IMG era? So for me this question has nonsense. Even if they choose to favor dark skin people for helping the world to change their mind because they still have white hegemony in international beauty pageantry, it should be looking as honorable because it is ugly to remember there are people who still look to dark skin people with such prejudice and it was just few years ago there were the apartheid in South Africa and the segregation in USA and in other countries. And I am not even gonna remember you the outrageous slavery couple centuries ago. So don't start talking about a subject you have not a clue or have not noticed.
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Postby yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 10:37 pm

GoBrazil wrote: The question is already a mistake. You should ask yourself how many black girls have YOU seen had won Miss Universe in IMG era? How many Miss USA has advanced to the top 5 in IMG era? So for me this question has nonsense. Even if they choose to favor dark skin people for helping the world to change their mind because they still have white hegemony in international beauty pageantry, it should be looking as honorable because it is ugly to remember there are people who still look to dark skin people with such prejudice and it was just few years ago there were the apartheid in South Africa and the segregation in USA and in other countries. And I am not even gonna remember you the outrageous slavery couple centuries ago. So don't start talking about a subject you have not a clue or have not noticed.


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Postby ajsy0203 » Mon May 06, 2019 1:01 am

Maybe it was related to "Oscars so white" controversy?
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Pedro » Tue May 07, 2019 1:28 am

This thread is so racist that I just can't :%)) Let's just stop and think about it for a second: there's a white person out there complaining for the excessive amount (which is not even 50%) of black women in pageants.
Miss Universe 2009 had an all-white Top 15 and I don't remember it being an issue. Everyone seemed pretty ok with it. I remember reading dozens of coments saying that "if no blacks or asians made it, it was because none of them were deserving". People were full of bullshit then and people are full of bullshit now.

The actual question should be: why MUO under Trump was always favoring white contestants? Oh wait, I know the answer. It's because he's racist.
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Postby yellowyam1 » Tue May 07, 2019 5:42 am

Pedro wrote:This thread is so racist that I just can't :%)) Let's just stop and think about it for a second: there's a white person out there complaining for the excessive amount (which is not even 50%) of black women in pageants.
Miss Universe 2009 had an all-white Top 15 and I don't remember it being an issue. Everyone seemed pretty ok with it. I remember reading dozens of coments saying that "if no blacks or asians made it, it was because none of them were deserving". People were full of bullshit then and people are full of bullshit now.

The actual question should be: why MUO under Trump was always favoring white contestants? Oh wait, I know the answer. It's because he's racist.


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Postby Jaishee » Tue May 07, 2019 6:24 am

Is Kiara really black? I just thought that she's a morena
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Leonna Collins » Tue May 07, 2019 10:50 am

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KIARA is MULATTA

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Postby Emily_Wint » Tue May 07, 2019 11:28 am

This is great information
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Re: WHY IMG IS ALWAYS FAVORING BLACK CONTESTANT?

Postby Slowpoke » Tue May 07, 2019 12:22 pm

Leonna Collins wrote:
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Is Kiara really black? I just thought that she's a morena
KIARA is MULATTA

MULATTO - is a term that was used to refer to people born of one white parent and one black parent, or from two mulatto parents, or to describe a multiracial person who resembles a mulatto


It's not cheating though unlike pinoys sending half European candidates. Catriona is not even a filipina 3:)

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