by Clorentine » Sun May 05, 2019 1:43 pm
sleuth08 wrote:HARVIN wrote:
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Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl)
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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though
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by yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 4:50 pm
Clorentine wrote:sleuth08 wrote:HARVIN wrote:
2018
Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl)
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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though
Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina
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by Queen of the Clouds » Sun May 05, 2019 6:41 pm
yellowyam1 wrote:Clorentine wrote:sleuth08 wrote:HARVIN wrote:
2018
Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl)
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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though
Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina
Yeah, I was under the impression that Andrea Tovar was a black Afro-Latina. In the United States, she probably would not be considered black (pretty much all Hispanics are grouped together here under one ethnicity unfortunately), but in Colombia's standards she is black. I wasn't sure about Kiara though, but she may be Afro-Latina as well.
I would hesitate to call Miss Haiti a Latina. Also, 95% of Haiti is black. Raquel did have light skin and may have some mixed ancestry, but she is definitely black, as Davina obviously is too. Also yes, Tamaryn Green is not black. She is a member of the Cape Coloureds ethnic group in South Africa, which has mixed white, black, and Indian ancestry. Demi-Leigh also is not white, she is from this same ethnic group, she just appears more white than Tamaryn does.
I do wish though that we can stop focusing on the race of each contestant, and just focus on who they are as an individual.
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by yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 7:30 pm
Queen of the Clouds wrote:yellowyam1 wrote:Clorentine wrote:sleuth08 wrote:HARVIN wrote:
2018
Miss Universe 2018 top 5 - 2 black women (South Africa and the colony girl)
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Miss Puerto Rico Kiara is not black, she has dark skin but she is not black, Davina is black, but, not even miss Haiti (maybe yes) or Andrea Tovar are black, they are latinas with dark skin, they have ancestors that are black but they are not fully black, because their ancestors come from different ethnicities, just like the majority of people in Latin America, and Tamaryn Green is biracial though
Hate to break it to you they are black, they are call Afro Latina
Yeah, I was under the impression that Andrea Tovar was a black Afro-Latina. In the United States, she probably would not be considered black (pretty much all Hispanics are grouped together here under one ethnicity unfortunately), but in Colombia's standards she is black. I wasn't sure about Kiara though, but she may be Afro-Latina as well.
I would hesitate to call Miss Haiti a Latina. Also, 95% of Haiti is black. Raquel did have light skin and may have some mixed ancestry, but she is definitely black, as Davina obviously is too. Also yes, Tamaryn Green is not black. She is a member of the Cape Coloureds ethnic group in South Africa, which has mixed white, black, and Indian ancestry. Demi-Leigh also is not white, she is from this same ethnic group, she just appears more white than Tamaryn does.
I do wish though that we can stop focusing on the race of each contestant, and just focus on who they are as an individual.
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by Lafeadamadelaindia » Sun May 05, 2019 8:09 pm
Yes, we should not focus on people’s races — just on them as individuals and their beauty; after all these are BEAUTY pageants. If we did that, IMG couldn’t use race anymore to undeserving place a lot of these controversial Thesis Beauties!
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by yellowyam1 » Sun May 05, 2019 10:37 pm
GoBrazil wrote: The question is already a mistake. You should ask yourself how many black girls have YOU seen had won Miss Universe in IMG era? How many Miss USA has advanced to the top 5 in IMG era? So for me this question has nonsense. Even if they choose to favor dark skin people for helping the world to change their mind because they still have white hegemony in international beauty pageantry, it should be looking as honorable because it is ugly to remember there are people who still look to dark skin people with such prejudice and it was just few years ago there were the apartheid in South Africa and the segregation in USA and in other countries. And I am not even gonna remember you the outrageous slavery couple centuries ago. So don't start talking about a subject you have not a clue or have not noticed.
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by Jaishee » Tue May 07, 2019 6:24 am
Is Kiara really black? I just thought that she's a morena
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