Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Universe 2001?





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Postby HARVIN » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:36 am

    

Diana Diane wrote:Evelina wasn't really a Miss Universe, she was a model though and through

Also, I always wonder why people suppose US has this amazing buddy buddy relationship with PR? It's actually sad that we don't dearies


I heard the whole Island celebrated when Denise won. They even called her as their CHAMPION.

really? Champion for what? cheating. =;))

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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Diana Diane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:39 am

HARVIN wrote:
Diana Diane wrote:Evelina wasn't really a Miss Universe, she was a model though and through

Also, I always wonder why people suppose US has this amazing buddy buddy relationship with PR? It's actually sad that we don't dearies


I heard the whole Island celebrated when Denise won. They even called her as their CHAMPION.

really? Champion for what? cheating. =;))

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Is that one supposed to hurt? C'mon Harvin, youve got better naterial than that sentence =;))
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby HARVIN » Thu Aug 24, 2017 1:52 am

valleriam wrote:How many times is this going to be discussed in this forum??? I can't believe people are still pressed 16 years later, omg, that is just absolutely pathetic and tragic!
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Denise would have won even if the pageant is held in hell. Her presence and overall packaging is unmatched. Evelina is iconic, memorable, a beauty ahead of her time, but was she a beauty queen? I don't think so. She wasn't the perfect fit for the brand back in 2001, plus, her smile isn't really as appealing, sorry, but those are just facts. I still to this day recognize that Evelina was a formidable competitor and very beautiful, she is legendary, make no mistake about it. However, if she had been a candidate maybe in later editions, I think she would have had a better chance to win, so it's remarkable the fact that she ended in second place behind Denise, because I seriously think USA and Venezuela would have placed higher just due to packaging and sash factor alone. I even remember I was rooting for Miss USA that night, she was the one with Miss Universe frame to me. But then again, I also loved Miss Spain, Miss Venezuela, Miss Nigeria, Miss Greece, and of course, Denise Quiñones, so any of those girls would have been a great winner for me. I just don't get the hate for Denise, she wasn't a surprise winner at all, it was meant to be that way, period. It's the same case of 2004, 2005, 2008, 2010 and many other editions where either the runner up or the winner were perfect.

Here's Denise 16 years later, she's now 36 and looking very beautiful as ever

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she looks like 43 year old MILF. @-) @-) @-) @-)


even during her reign as fraud Miss Universe 2001. she looks terrible.

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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:00 am

I bet this little group of Pinoy rodents in the forum are currently reunited trying to figure out which mod revealed their dirty schemes! ;/))
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

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HARVIN wrote:
valleriam wrote:How many times is this going to be discussed in this forum??? I can't believe people are still pressed 16 years later, omg, that is just absolutely pathetic and tragic!
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Denise would have won even if the pageant is held in hell. Her presence and overall packaging is unmatched. Evelina is iconic, memorable, a beauty ahead of her time, but was she a beauty queen? I don't think so. She wasn't the perfect fit for the brand back in 2001, plus, her smile isn't really as appealing, sorry, but those are just facts. I still to this day recognize that Evelina was a formidable competitor and very beautiful, she is legendary, make no mistake about it. However, if she had been a candidate maybe in later editions, I think she would have had a better chance to win, so it's remarkable the fact that she ended in second place behind Denise, because I seriously think USA and Venezuela would have placed higher just due to packaging and sash factor alone. I even remember I was rooting for Miss USA that night, she was the one with Miss Universe frame to me. But then again, I also loved Miss Spain, Miss Venezuela, Miss Nigeria, Miss Greece, and of course, Denise Quiñones, so any of those girls would have been a great winner for me. I just don't get the hate for Denise, she wasn't a surprise winner at all, it was meant to be that way, period. It's the same case of 2004, 2005, 2008, 2010 and many other editions where either the runner up or the winner were perfect.

Here's Denise 16 years later, she's now 36 and looking very beautiful as ever

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Miss Universe 2001 FOREVER, till the end of times, sorry if some of you are STILL mad about it. Facts are facts. :"> :-*


she looks like 43 year old MILF. @-) @-) @-) @-)


even during her reign as fraud Miss Universe 2001. she looks terrible.

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Dude that would actually offend us if it were true but both Yari and Denise have only gotten better and more beautiful with the years =;)) at least the hosting conspiracy is a bit more logical but calling ugly... I want whatever drugs your on
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby hauteegirl » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:24 am

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Nina Cleopatra wrote:I think you made your true intentions pretty clear: Keep your mouth shut about Pia and Denise and Evelina will not suffer the consequences. [-X

The Duchess wrote:They are only mad because Denise happens to have the same nationality as Nina and she spend the last week talking crap about Pia as usual therefore opening the whole debate of Denise winning in her country. If she was another nationality this would not be a problem, but unfortunaly she is just collateral damage



This is not the first time you have been called an instigator since just a few days ago an Indian former was questioning your true motivations, which I suspected since you signed into this forum and wrote to me begging me to reveal my identity to you cause you're Puerto Rican. LOL! I already told you who I was why don't you share it with the rest of the members here! :)>-


Sure Nina, in your head that's what I will always sound like to literally only you so whatever man :%)) but I ain't even going to answer to you cause this is the kind of thing you do. You want traffic and controversy take it up with Harvin or Hautegirl



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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

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Unfortunately some of them did not understand the rules of this discussion on this thread. And even some of the forumers gave me negative reputation points for this discussion. We can analyze in the humane way but the mudslinging continues.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

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Nina Cleopatra wrote:I think you made your true intentions pretty clear: Keep your mouth shut about Pia and Denise and Evelina will not suffer the consequences. [-X

The Duchess wrote:They are only mad because Denise happens to have the same nationality as Nina and she spend the last week talking crap about Pia as usual therefore opening the whole debate of Denise winning in her country. If she was another nationality this would not be a problem, but unfortunaly she is just collateral damage



This is not the first time you have been called an instigator since just a few days ago an Indian former was questioning your true motivations, which I suspected since you signed into this forum and wrote to me begging me to reveal my identity to you cause you're Puerto Rican. LOL! I already told you who I was why don't you share it with the rest of the members here! :)>-


Sure Nina, in your head that's what I will always sound like to literally only you so whatever man :%)) but I ain't even going to answer to you cause this is the kind of thing you do. You want traffic and controversy take it up with Harvin or Hautegirl



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well you said you liked fighting with her so =;)) enjoy
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby hauteegirl » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:26 am

Nina Cleopatra wrote:I bet this little group of Pinoy rodents in the forum are currently reunited trying to figure out which mod revealed their dirty schemes! ;/))




Sweetie, i'm not like you who got caught of having several alternicks... bwahahahahaaaa you're a fraud like Miss Universe 2001 and 2006! FRAUDE! FRAUDE!! FRAUDE!!! =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Diana Diane » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:27 am

ajsy0203 wrote:Unfortunately some of them did not understand the rules of this discussion on this thread. And even some of the forumers gave me negative reputation points for this discussion. We can analyze in the humane way but the mudslinging continues.


When has this forum followed rules dear?
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

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The Duchess wrote:
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Nina Cleopatra wrote:I think you made your true intentions pretty clear: Keep your mouth shut about Pia and Denise and Evelina will not suffer the consequences. [-X

The Duchess wrote:They are only mad because Denise happens to have the same nationality as Nina and she spend the last week talking crap about Pia as usual therefore opening the whole debate of Denise winning in her country. If she was another nationality this would not be a problem, but unfortunaly she is just collateral damage



This is not the first time you have been called an instigator since just a few days ago an Indian former was questioning your true motivations, which I suspected since you signed into this forum and wrote to me begging me to reveal my identity to you cause you're Puerto Rican. LOL! I already told you who I was why don't you share it with the rest of the members here! :)>-


Sure Nina, in your head that's what I will always sound like to literally only you so whatever man :%)) but I ain't even going to answer to you cause this is the kind of thing you do. You want traffic and controversy take it up with Harvin or Hautegirl



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well you said you liked fighting with her so =;)) enjoy



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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Nina Cleopatra » Thu Aug 24, 2017 3:42 am

hauteegirl wrote:
Nina Cleopatra wrote:I bet this little group of Pinoy rodents in the forum are currently reunited trying to figure out which mod revealed their dirty schemes! ;/))




Sweetie, i'm not like you.





Did I mentioned any names? You just included yourself so clearly you're part of this little group! Got cha! ;/))
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby jhunz23 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 4:45 am

i think the real winner is Zorayda Ruth Andam!
hahahaha!
Etchos!

chill people, none of our discussion will matter
all people already moved on!

just invent time machine and maybe we could change history!
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Pipeline1602 » Thu Aug 24, 2017 2:36 pm

[size=150][My favorite that year was Miss Venezuela. Eva Ekval. India gave the best answer. U.S.A dont deserve to be in the top 5 she has a weak walk and old looking face...And yes Denise is the rightful winner. She had everything the other girls dont have ./size]
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Postby hrexen » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:06 pm

Her nose!!!!!!! Rhinoplasty could have done wonders for her. Still I think she is overrated. Superb catwalk, that is it! Eva Ekvall should have been 1st RU. Denise won fair and square though :-*
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Postby hrexen » Thu Aug 24, 2017 7:16 pm

hauteegirl wrote:
Nina Cleopatra wrote:I bet this little group of Pinoy rodents in the forum are currently reunited trying to figure out which mod revealed their dirty schemes! ;/))




Sweetie, i'm not like you who got caught of having several alternicks... bwahahahahaaaa you're a fraud like Miss Universe 2001 and 2006! FRAUDE! FRAUDE!! FRAUDE!!! =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;)) =;))


Why so bitter, some day your country might have as many crowns as the powerhouses... someday! Lets just enjoy the pageants.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby valleriam » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:18 am

This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}
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Postby The Duchess » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:19 am

valleriam wrote:This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}


You surprised? =;))
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Postby valleriam » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:25 am

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valleriam wrote:This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}


You surprised? =;))


I am mostly disappointed, I wish this silly war could come to an end.
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Postby valleriam » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:26 am

hrexen wrote:
Lets just enjoy the pageants.


this is what i'm here for... :=p :-*
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valleriam wrote:
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valleriam wrote:This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}


You surprised? =;))


I am mostly disappointed, I wish this silly war could come to an end.


Unfortunally it won't for a while, for this is not even new :|
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Diana Diane » Fri Aug 25, 2017 12:30 am

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valleriam wrote:This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}


You surprised? =;))


I am mostly disappointed, I wish this silly war could come to an end.


Unfortunally it won't for a while, for this is not even new :|


I'm dissapointed at the fact that I left in 2013 and I come back four years later and its just gotten worse
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Dani Jenner » Fri Aug 25, 2017 5:41 am

I'm Pinoy but i think Denise won over Evelina that night. She was just oozig with radiance, charisma, confidence, and it-factor that night! The whole "her island brought her crown" argument is old and tired, 17 years old to be exact.

When Pia won, she clearly wasn't the most beautiful, she wasn't the sexiest either. But she had the it factor, she had charisma and radiance that made her won that night. If it was all beauty alone then Philippines would not even be in the Top 5 that year and Miss France or Australia would've won.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby sleuth08 » Sat Aug 26, 2017 2:29 am

IF THE PAGEANT WAS HELD IN A DIFFERENT COUNTRY AND NOT IN PUERTO RICO, FOR SURE EVELINA WILL WIN.

HER CATWALK, HER ATTITUDE IS BEYOND AND MILES HIGH THAN DENISE.

THIS IS THE PART WHERE POLITICS CAME INTO PLAY. IF DENISE WILL NOT WIN, FOR SURE THERE WILL BE RIOT IN THE VENUE.

MUO LET PUERTO RICO WIN JUST TO APPEASE THE AUDIENCE.

NOW THIS IS THE BEST EXAMPLE OF POLITICS INFLUENCING THE PAGEANT.

THAT'S WHY THE FOLLOWING YEAR, WHEN PUERTO RICO STILL HOSTED THE PAGEANT, ISIS CASALDUC WAS THE SACRIFICIAL LAMB AFTER THE CONTROVERSIAL RESULT IN 2001.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby DORABIAN » Sat Aug 26, 2017 5:55 pm

THE ANSWER IS BECAUSE SHE IS NOT THE WINNER THAT WHY SHE'S NOT WINNING IT..
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby sarahmarrow » Sat Aug 26, 2017 7:55 pm

Del Mar wrote:I don't like the winner that time because of the two PR judges but this Greek woman nose bother me most. Front view okay but side view witchy nose. Sorry I don't feel over the spilled milk.


YARI WAS FINE AS A JUDGE THAT YEAR. SHE GAVE OTHER GIRLS A JUSTIFIABLE SCORES.
BUT HER HUSBAND (MARC ANTHONY) HE AWARDED THE PR DELEGATE THE HIGHEST SCORE AMONG ALL OTHERS.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Oma-san » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:49 pm

valleriam wrote:This is toxic. Look at all of this madness, over a BEAUTY PAGEANT... Seriously? :O) 8-}


Which is why your country bought all those crowns and are proud of girls who twerk their way up. The amount of effort put into surgery, etc. is just preposterous. Even Venezuela is not that vain, they are systematic and if they lose, they deal with it.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby Oma-san » Tue Mar 06, 2018 4:52 pm

Evelina had bad angles but it wasn't like Denise was a superbeauty to begin with, plus, she had bad angles, more so than Evelina. She didn't have the body, presence, classiness, regal aura that Evelina had. Plus Evelina came across as more genuine whereas Denise behaved immature for her 20 years. I'm also talking about her irritating smile which wasn't beautiful to begin with. She looked like she was on her first visit to the dentist.
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Re: Why Evelina Papantoniou fell short of winning Miss Unive

Postby HIMEROS » Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:02 am

Even though I hate Nina, I won't agree that the Miss Universe 2001 pageant was rigged. I watched that edition countless times and I love Denise during that edition. I mostly love her during the evening gown competition. She was radiant and her walk was fierce but not overdone. I would say she's a deserving winner. Evelina could've made a good Miss Universe as well, but Denise took the title deservingly.
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