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What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 7:42 pm
by Zhenrick
Hello guys, happy to share my insight regarding Binibining Pilipinas 2020 and how will Miss Universe Philippines will or may affect the most prestigious beauty pageant in The Philippines. For those of you that are not aware, BInibining Pilipinas is the main beauty pageant that sends Philippine representatives for Miss International, Miss Supranational, Miss Globe, Miss Grand International, Miss Intercontinental and Miss Universe beauty pageant. Later this year, it was confirmed, Miss Universe title won't be under Binibining Pilipinas or BPCI anymore. Hence, from 6 titles, only 5 titles will be at stake for the upcoming Binibining Pilipinas pageant.

Miss Universe Philippines will be now under the management of Shamcey Supsup, Miss Universe Philippines 2011 and 3rd runner-up in Miss Universe 2011 pageant. In this video, i will tackle who among the previous Binibini candidates and runner-ups are for me a crown worthy.

How about you? Who do you want to join Binibining Pilipinas 2020 Beauty pageant?



Thank you for watching!! :O) :O) :O)

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 8:22 pm
by SheMalesofVenezuela
BPCI should buy the MUO from IMG, which is planning on selling the bankrupt organization, anyway. Then BPCI can decide whom it wants to give the local Miss Universe franchise to: itself! Ha ha ha ha ha! :%))

At least with the Philippines owning the MUO, fans are guaranteed no cheap Miss Universe hosting at some ballroom in Vegas or some poor city in the US, and the finals will not be held at some minuscule venue that can’t even accommodate thousands of people! =c3

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 9:04 pm
by Binibining ZOZI
SheMalesofVenezuela wrote:BPCI should buy the MUO from IMG, which is planning on selling the bankrupt organization, anyway. Then BPCI can decide whom it wants to give the local Miss Universe franchise to: itself! Ha ha ha ha ha! :%))

At least with the Philippines owning the MUO, fans are guaranteed no cheap Miss Universe hosting at some ballroom in Vegas or some poor city in the US, and the finals will not be held at some minuscule venue that can’t even accommodate thousands of people! =c3


TRUE

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Thu Dec 26, 2019 11:40 pm
by mrgary
So far, I have not found an alpha female who is as good as Catriona, if not better, in our Philippine pageantry system. I firmly believe that even the Binibini candidates we favoured so much in the past could still not take the Universe like how Pia and Catriona did in 2015 and 2018, respectively. Last year, I thought Hannah Arnold had it because she had been doing her charity work in orphanages both in Canberra and the Philippines since she was 16 years old, plus English was her main language. Alas, she was just too soft during interviews and clammed up so easily when the going got tough. I didn't see her star power during the finals night! She was just totally lost in oblivion. On the other hand, Julia Saubier was just too rough for me. Her voice for influence seemed to be only coming from her and not from the clamour of the entire Filipino people. She exuded this obstinate and bratty demeanour during the pre-pageant activities of Binibining PIlipinas 2019. She also had an awful pasarela. Her form was just too stiff like a tree and her movements were so graceless and thick. Her platform regarding self-defense was just too ludicrous for me to be given utmost priority because I felt that there were more important and far better social issues than this so-called "self-defense for women via Shaolin martial arts". Alaiza Malinao, Ahtisa Manalo, Karen Gallman, Sandra Lemonon, Aya Abesamis, Samantha Bernardo, Vicky Rushton, Leren Mae Bautista, Edjelyn Gamboa, Kimberly and Dindi Joy Pajares, etc weren't just articulate at all. They will have an extremely difficult time to slay the preliminary closed door interview at Miss Universe if given the chance to represent the Philippines. Meanwhile, Patch Magtanong, Karen Ibasco, Arienne Calingo, Samantha Lo, and Nichole Cordovez didn't have the wow factor at all, either. Nichole could express herself well in interviews but there's something about her smile that bothers me a lot because it reminds me of a woman who is constantly skinning a lemon. In short, Nichole has this sour smile just like Renee Zellweger's before the latter had a face lift.

To sum it all up, we need fresh alpha females for next year who are completely eloquent, confident, empowered, tall, beautiful and cultured. The search continues . . .

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 1:11 am
by akosibatman
No to engot memorize barangay ladies

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 2:23 am
by lutosfeet
Its a new era just like what Catriona said. I think Bb. Pilipinas will evolve too but I have a feeling that Miss Universe franchise will just return to Araneta in the coming years, depende yan sa outcome ng MUP..

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:52 am
by quelab22
anu kaya ang magiging top three titles sa Binibini...

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 5:54 am
by lucrecia_kasilag
Sa BPCI, hangga't andyan si SMA, ang gusto ni SMA pa rin ang masusunod. Ang nakakatakot lang baka balik Cumbia sila! Lerket! =/

Mabigyang hustisya pa rin sana ng Bb. Pilipinas ang entertainment value ng pageant night. I-entertain pa rin nawa nila ang Philippine designers. Iba pa rin kasi pag inaabangan ng mundo. Tanong ko lang din - kailangan pa ba ng BPCI ang advocacy-driven merlies just to win MIP/MSP?

Ngayong hiwalay na ang MUP, mabalanse ng Bb. Pilipinas ulit ang pagandahan at rampahan sa talakan portion (opening interview and final q&a).

Sa paghiwalay ng MUP, kung hindi magiging masunurin ang MUPO sa MUO, sana nga lipat-franchise agad. Kaso, gugustuhin pa ba ng maraming tao kung balik-BPCI? Oo, andun na tayo na most sensible org pa rin ang BPCI to stage beauty contest. Kaso ang ibang tao gusto ring makakita ng bagong hulma ng MUP.

Ang akin lang din, matuto sana ang MUPO sa nangyari sa femina/i am she/miss diva. I am she na ang classic case na walang pinatunguhan ang standalone MUI. Yung inaakala nilang they can bank on India's glorious Miss Universe winning days eh hindi naman naibalik ng India agad yun. Pagpagland took more than 40 years to finally won the M U crown again. Andyan pa nga ang iba ng wala pa ring placement/korona hanggang ngayon. Pero kung usapang powerhouse din lang, lumalabas na after naibigay ulit ang MUI sa femina by creating miss diva, parang kinakapa ulit ng India ang hulma para sa M U.

Syempre, andyan na ang india na tunay na makuda/maboka. Fairly recent interview lang kay Lara Dutta, nasabi nya na ang mindset pa kasi ng ibang mga sumasali para Miss Diva ay parang tengga pa ng 80s/90s kung saan sasali sa beaucon to empower themselves. Eh kaso iba na ang panahon ngayon. Inexample nya ang Philippines. Nakita nya ang power ng social media. Dahil sa socmed, ang babae hindi pa nakakarating sa host country kinkilatis na kung may pag-asa ba sa korona. Nakita din nya na ang mga sumasali ngayon ay may sinusuportahang advocacy/ies na.

Sa opinyon ko lang, lumalabas na "Public Relations" na lang ang pagsali sa beaucon. Thankfully, may edge agad ang Philippine candidates natin dahil ang iba talaga lehitimong advocate. Pero hindi lahat ng sumasali sa beaucon aminin natin na may advocacies agad. At kung meron mang advocate, for sure may mga hindi nila binubuyangyang sa camera o tahimik lang ang pagtulong. Kung PR game na lang pala ang beaucon, no wonder "tinatamlayan/ma-tamlay" na talaga ang entertainment value ng pageant.

Ang apprehension ko din sa standalone MUPO ay baka matulad (pero huwag nawang mangyari) ang pagpagland sa India na sumusundot-sundot lang sa pwestuhan sa M U sa loob ng almost 20 years. Syempre iba pa rin ang sash factor ng Philippines. Pero ibang kaso kasi kung extension ng "business activities" ni sabit et al at ng IMG/MUO ang MUPO. Nasabi ko na ito dati. Gagawing "advantage" o "legal ticket" o "security" para pumwesto ang merlie kung ang national org o bansa ay magiging pageant host o bilang dinner night host o mataas ang bigayan sa IMG/MUO. Pero kahit may advantage na, kung ipapako lang sa top 20 ang merlie kahit anong ganda pa ng merit/credentials/performance, e baka sayang lang ang effort altogether.

Kung mangyaring makita ng MUO ang tunay na kulay/kalagayan ng MUPO sa kamay ng bagong may-ari, sana nga lipat-franchise agad within the next 5/10 years. Pero papayag pa ba ang IMG/MUO na mapunta ulit sa BPCI? May Mutya pa daw char! :)>-

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 6:58 am
by bcdf1930
I GUESS GIRLS USED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas TO HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO Miss Universe! NOW THAT Miss Universe IS GONE, I DOUBT IF GIRLS WOULD BE AS INTERESTED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas AS BEFORE :)>- :)>- :)>-

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 7:29 am
by lutosfeet
bcdf1930 wrote:I GUESS GIRLS USED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas TO HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO Miss Universe! NOW THAT Miss Universe IS GONE, I DOUBT IF GIRLS WOULD BE AS INTERESTED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas AS BEFORE :)>- :)>- :)>-


Ang sasali na lang sa Bb. Pilipinas eh yung mga merlies na gusto sumunod sa yapak ni Bea at Kylie.. But i really doubt, kaya BPCI needs to step up their game, aminin Miss Universe franchise is their bread and butter simula ng 2010s..

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Dec 27, 2019 8:07 pm
by pacifico falafoxy
I can see messy beauty pageants in next years to come under new organization of Miss Philippines Universe.

It is going to get worse first before things get better. That’s a cycle to many new companies. That’s a given. I don’t think Jonas should have pursued this but he did. There are so many things to learn first which will affect kinds of candidates signing up, kinds of productions and qualities of winners or outcomes for Miss Universe reps from the Philippines.

That’s my realistic expectations is that in the next five years or so, it will be a dreadful roller coaster ride.

As a beginner, the new owner / management will have too many struggles and adversities just like creating a new company from scratch. With the new MUO communication format at Miss Universe pageants, Philippines reps will have a hard time at MUO. Philippines is not prepared for this. I just think that MUO should have continued working with BPCI until things start to slow down on new concepts instituted.

Philippines is on disadvantageous side at this time with new formats and new MUP franchise, knowing that winning more Miss Universe crowns is Philippines goal to catch up top performers: Venezuela, USA and Puerto Rico.

Miss Universe 2019 was a sort of rude awakening for Philippine pageantry moving forward. Many Filipina beauties are not that strong in terms of empowerment when they talk and express. Recruiting strong candidates for national pageant will be a lot of work and struggles starting 2020 pageant season.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sat Dec 28, 2019 9:17 am
by hauteegirl
di yata mawawala ang messy gramma dahil nawalan ng MUP

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 1:10 pm
by JamesCedricLim
I am still optimistic with BPCI, but let us admit Miss Universe was their only price possession. When Miss World decided to changed their franchise owner hindi masyadong naramdaman ng BPCI at nag survive pa rin sila because of Miss Universe title. They still managed to get high caliber candidates. However since now na wala na sa kanila ang Miss Universe title, siguradong ramdam na ramdam nila ito ngayon. Siguradong hihina ang quality ng kanilang candidates. 200% Miss Universe ang target ng ating mga Pinays nothing else nothing more.

If gustong ibalik ni Madam ang serbisyo ni Barrazza mas lalo lang niyang nilulugmok ang pageant nya sa kumunoy. Baka ni baranggay level ay walang sumali sa pageant nya. At baka ito ay maging History nalang in the past.. From the Prime Beauty Pageant in the Philippines/ Asia to just a history nalang...

If i were Madam i upgrade nya ang pageant nya to something else para mapag usapan at may high caliber na pinays ang mag join. I would suggest the following:

Lets start sa prices:

1. a Million pesos
2. Condo
3. Brand new car

Mamili sya dyan ng isa para may maakit sya na high caliber na pinays, pero kung puro CUMBIA wardrobe at pizza hut, DQ ice cream, Jag and Ever Bilena ang prices nya ulit, siguradong lalangawin sya.

Palitan na rin nya ang mga Ebays Crowns nya to more beautiful ones. Pero baka pati mga prime sponsors nya ay mag lipatan na rin like. Philippine Airlines, Uniliver products, P&G products etc etc.... Pasalamat si madam sila ang may ari ng Araneta Center at may magandang venue pa rin sila at gate mall or novetel hotel na gagamitin nila for press con etc for free... Dahil kung wala baka ang maging venue ay ball room nalang ng hotel at ang presscon ay sa gilid nalang ng bahay ni madam sa cubao. Pasalamat nalang at sila ang may ari ng mga facilities na ito na for FREE nila magagamit.


Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 6:52 pm
by stuff
Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:07 pm
by carlosebastienne
SheMalesofVenezuela wrote:BPCI should buy the MUO from IMG, which is planning on selling the bankrupt organization, anyway. Then BPCI can decide whom it wants to give the local Miss Universe franchise to: itself! Ha ha ha ha ha! :%))

At least with the Philippines owning the MUO, fans are guaranteed no cheap Miss Universe hosting at some ballroom in Vegas or some poor city in the US, and the finals will not be held at some minuscule venue that can’t even accommodate thousands of people! =c3


:=p

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Dec 29, 2019 10:11 pm
by carlosebastienne
bcdf1930 wrote:I GUESS GIRLS USED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas TO HAVE A CHANCE TO GO TO Miss Universe! NOW THAT Miss Universe IS GONE, I DOUBT IF GIRLS WOULD BE AS INTERESTED TO JOIN Bb. Pilipinas AS BEFORE :)>- :)>- :)>-


If there are tons of girls joining Miss Earth Philippines, and particularly if there are girls who still want to pursue Julia Morley’s joke of a cooking show crown, there is no reason girls shouldn’t aspire for Miss International, the next prestigious crown after Miss Universe. [-X

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Thu Jan 02, 2020 5:06 pm
by ***
I think Bb. Pilipinas will have it’s own niche, super and beyond gorgeous Filipinas who due to being disadvantaged in life were not able to have quality education hence the poor to mediocre communication skills. Let’s face it a Melanie Marquez, a Janina San Miguel, or a Janicel Lubina etc. are all super stunning but won’t be able to realistically clinch the Universe crown....

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:26 pm
by LovelyClapperCountry
*** wrote:I think Bb. Pilipinas will have it’s own niche, super and beyond gorgeous Filipinas who due to being disadvantaged in life were not able to have quality education hence the poor to mediocre communication skills. Let’s face it a Melanie Marquez, a Janina San Miguel, or a Janicel Lubina etc. are all super stunning but won’t be able to realistically clinch the Universe crown....


With the exception of Melanie Marquez, none of the Philippines’ numerous Miss International winners could be described as not possessing enough education nor good communication skills. [-X

If anything, BPCI’s niche could be focusing exclusively on producing Miss International winners; no more divided attention from Miss Universe. The other titles it awards don’t matter at all.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 5:29 pm
by LovelyClapperCountry
SheMalesofVenezuela wrote:BPCI should buy the MUO from IMG, which is planning on selling the bankrupt organization, anyway. Then BPCI can decide whom it wants to give the local Miss Universe franchise to: itself! Ha ha ha ha ha! :%))

At least with the Philippines owning the MUO, fans are guaranteed no cheap Miss Universe hosting at some ballroom in Vegas or some poor city in the US, and the finals will not be held at some minuscule venue that can’t even accommodate thousands of people! =c3


Yes, time for the incompetent IMG to give up ownership of the MUO!

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:13 pm
by uzumaki
Madam should reach out to Madam Ikemi of ICA and host the 2020 edition of Miss International here in the PH. Miss Intercontinental got the curiosity of the Filipinos after a successful staging of the pageant here plus to the fact that it was won by a Filipina through Karen Gallman.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 03, 2020 6:55 pm
by loveme4ever
What’s next?

Mage-extinct na ang BB Pilipinas. Or pwede ring gawing training ground ng mga girls for other pageants. Lol

Kidding aside, sana mag-level up si madam para hindi sya matabunan ng ibang pageants lalo na hiwalay na ang MUP!

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 10, 2020 6:56 pm
by trsppt
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Mon Jan 13, 2020 7:24 am
by mharlon
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 7:09 pm
by LovelyClapperCountry
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 1:25 am
by mharlon
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.


Still, an investment that big meant there should be ROI. MUO under the new org (BPCI or others) would need to have earnings enough to cover production costs (pageant staging, winners' accommodations, travel costs etc.) while sparing some for their charities...

Nothing's stopping them, yeah. But a wise business decision always considers returns on investments...

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 2:18 am
by trsppt
mharlon wrote:
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.


Still, an investment that big meant there should be ROI. MUO under the new org (BPCI or others) would need to have earnings enough to cover production costs (pageant staging, winners' accommodations, travel costs etc.) while sparing some for their charities...

Nothing's stopping them, yeah. But a wise business decision always considers returns on investments...


It’s a matter of managing finances. There’s the franchise fees and all the sponsorships. And for BPCI, they’re saving a lot from having to pay for a venue. They already host Binibining Pilipinas every year. They’re not a stranger nor a neophyte to pageants. Planning and thinking ahead and being strategic in their expenditures will serve them well. They already have the heart and experience for pageants; IMG doesn’t. They’ve won half the battle.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 7:34 am
by mharlon
trsppt wrote:
mharlon wrote:
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.


Still, an investment that big meant there should be ROI. MUO under the new org (BPCI or others) would need to have earnings enough to cover production costs (pageant staging, winners' accommodations, travel costs etc.) while sparing some for their charities...

Nothing's stopping them, yeah. But a wise business decision always considers returns on investments...


It’s a matter of managing finances. There’s the franchise fees and all the sponsorships. And for BPCI, they’re saving a lot from having to pay for a venue. They already host Binibining Pilipinas every year. They’re not a stranger nor a neophyte to pageants. Planning and thinking ahead and being strategic in their expenditures will serve them well. They already have the heart and experience for pageants; IMG doesn’t. They’ve won half the battle.


That is if Miss Universe will be held each and every year in the PH. Also the mere fact IMG did not renew their franchise meant they do not see BPCI as a good business partner. Nothing is won by BPCI here...

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Sun Jan 19, 2020 9:06 pm
by FutaKaNina
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
mharlon wrote:
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.


Still, an investment that big meant there should be ROI. MUO under the new org (BPCI or others) would need to have earnings enough to cover production costs (pageant staging, winners' accommodations, travel costs etc.) while sparing some for their charities...

Nothing's stopping them, yeah. But a wise business decision always considers returns on investments...


It’s a matter of managing finances. There’s the franchise fees and all the sponsorships. And for BPCI, they’re saving a lot from having to pay for a venue. They already host Binibining Pilipinas every year. They’re not a stranger nor a neophyte to pageants. Planning and thinking ahead and being strategic in their expenditures will serve them well. They already have the heart and experience for pageants; IMG doesn’t. They’ve won half the battle.


That is if Miss Universe will be held each and every year in the PH. Also the mere fact IMG did not renew their franchise meant they do not see BPCI as a good business partner. Nothing is won by BPCI here...


Hmm. You’re conflating things that are not connected.

If BPCI makes a bid for the MUO, that means they’re confident they have the means to handle the responsibility. They haven’t, and they haven’t even raised the idea of doing it, and you don’t belong in that organization, so you don’t have the means to assess their resources nor to speak on their behalf.

You’re also not from IMG, so you also don’t have means to speak on their behalf.

All the items mentioned above are wishes and speculations.

One thing has been clearly demostrated, though, especially given the very poor (literally $$$ and figuratively) handling of Miss Universe 2019 and the significant drop of activities and travels of recent Miss Universe winners (including the worse scenarios for Miss USA and Miss Teen USA): IMG has NEITHER the means & expertise nor the interest in sustaining pageants. It’s time to give away Miss Universe to a group that can actually make the pageant thrive.

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 2:03 am
by Kumukutikutitap
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
SheMalesofVenezuela wrote:BPCI should buy the MUO from IMG, which is planning on selling the bankrupt organization, anyway. Then BPCI can decide whom it wants to give the local Miss Universe franchise to: itself! Ha ha ha ha ha! :%))

At least with the Philippines owning the MUO, fans are guaranteed no cheap Miss Universe hosting at some ballroom in Vegas or some poor city in the US, and the finals will not be held at some minuscule venue that can’t even accommodate thousands of people! =c3


Yes, time for the incompetent IMG to give up ownership of the MUO!


Somebody please take it away from IMG ASAP!

Re: What's next for Binibining Pilipinas

PostPosted: Mon Jan 20, 2020 5:52 am
by mharlon
FutaKaNina wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
mharlon wrote:
LovelyClapperCountry wrote:
mharlon wrote:
trsppt wrote:
stuff wrote:Bb. Pilipinas should make their own international pageant.I think they are good enough to compete against Miss Earth and Grand.


Just buy the MUO and take charge of Miss Universe.


Not gonna happen as BPCI is primarily a non-stock, non-profit charitable organization meaning all their earnings go to charity...

Araneta group of companies, however, can possibly buy MUO. But they will have to exhaust their resources dry before they can purchase MUO from IMG. They can establish a consortium with big PH corporations but then not sure these companies will be too excited to buy an international beauty pageant organization...


Nothing’s stopping any organization from remaining non-profit even with the purchase of the MUO, which extensively engages in charitable activities anyway.

If BPCI or a consortium decides to purchase the MUO, the MUO will take on whatever status its owner has. It’ll actually improve the MUO’s image as an organization to be non-profit, whose primary aim is to re-invest earnings in its charitable engagements, rather than on depositing all profits back to the hands of its stockholders.


Still, an investment that big meant there should be ROI. MUO under the new org (BPCI or others) would need to have earnings enough to cover production costs (pageant staging, winners' accommodations, travel costs etc.) while sparing some for their charities...

Nothing's stopping them, yeah. But a wise business decision always considers returns on investments...


It’s a matter of managing finances. There’s the franchise fees and all the sponsorships. And for BPCI, they’re saving a lot from having to pay for a venue. They already host Binibining Pilipinas every year. They’re not a stranger nor a neophyte to pageants. Planning and thinking ahead and being strategic in their expenditures will serve them well. They already have the heart and experience for pageants; IMG doesn’t. They’ve won half the battle.


That is if Miss Universe will be held each and every year in the PH. Also the mere fact IMG did not renew their franchise meant they do not see BPCI as a good business partner. Nothing is won by BPCI here...


Hmm. You’re conflating things that are not connected.

If BPCI makes a bid for the MUO, that means they’re confident they have the means to handle the responsibility. They haven’t, and they haven’t even raised the idea of doing it, and you don’t belong in that organization, so you don’t have the means to assess their resources nor to speak on their behalf.

You’re also not from IMG, so you also don’t have means to speak on their behalf.

All the items mentioned above are wishes and speculations.

One thing has been clearly demostrated, though, especially given the very poor (literally $$$ and figuratively) handling of Miss Universe 2019 and the significant drop of activities and travels of recent Miss Universe winners (including the worse scenarios for Miss USA and Miss Teen USA): IMG has NEITHER the means & expertise nor the interest in sustaining pageants. It’s time to give away Miss Universe to a group that can actually make the pageant thrive.


Even if 2019 is lackluster compared to previous productions, that doesn't mean they cannot sustain the pageant further. As you've said, we are both not part of IMG so do not pre-empt their business decisions before they can decide to...

Also, I may not be working within BPCI but I am a CPA and has the skills to say if they have the ability or not to purchase or bid for MUO ownership. But I won't do that analysis for them, else they need to pay me for services...

One thing is certain - BPCI has been dropped/dumped by IMG/MUO. Will they get the franchise again? Maybe or maybe not. They need to move on without Miss Universe...