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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Princess Madeleine » Mon Aug 26, 2019 6:37 am

    

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Sweety Boy Tamis Asim » Mon Aug 26, 2019 10:08 am

GANITO NA SILA KALALA AT KATATAPANG KAPAG INAPROBAHAN ANG SOGIE BILL NA YAN... ISANG NAPAKALAKING KAMALIAN PARA SA KANILA KAPAG TINAWAG MO SILANG SIR O TRANSGENDER... KAYA PWEDE KANG MAWALAN NG TRABAHO... #NOTOSOGIEBILL

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby ConstipatedUniverseFace » Tue Aug 27, 2019 5:17 pm

What’s the SOGIE Bill?
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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Wed Aug 28, 2019 2:00 am

HERE IS THE COPY OF THE SOGIE BILL...
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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby DARNA. » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:09 am

Mga CR sa Quezon City Hall nilagyan ng “ALL GENDER” signs. <:-P

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Hu Yu Hai Ding » Wed Aug 28, 2019 3:26 am

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby manoypoe » Wed Aug 28, 2019 8:12 pm

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Thu Aug 29, 2019 5:14 am

THE MAJOR MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE SOGIE BILL... Ito ngayon ay pinapakalat ng mga anti-SOGIE Bill... Atin silang i-address... SOGIE BILL CONSEQUENCES IN PHILIPPINE SOCIETY IF MADE INTO LAW... Some eventual consequences of SOGIE.


1) Bawal na magturo ang mga Christian Schools na ang same-sex relationship ay isang kasalanan (kahit bibliya pa ang pinanggagalingan nito).

FACT:
Mali po yan. Ang SOGIE Bill po ay isang SECULAR LAW hindi po nito layuning baguhin ang turo ng simbahan. Wala pong provision sa SOGIE Bill na nagsasabi na pwedeng mangyari yan.


2) Lahat ng Exclusive Girl Schools (ex. St. Scholastica) HINDI PWEDENG I-DENY ang isang lalake na ang feeling nya sya ay isang babae na ma-enroll sa kanilang paaralan.
*Same applies with Exclusive Boys School, pwede na ang babae na feeling lalake sa All Boys School.

FACT:
Mali po rin yan. Para makapasok sa isang Exclusive Girl Schools dapat ay ikaw ay LEGALLY FEMALE sa iyong birth certificate. Wala pong provision sa SOGIE Bill na nag-authorize ng change of birth certificate.


3) Bawal na ang mga Pastors or any other religious teachers na magturo sa isang pampublikong lugar (except Churches) na ang homosexuality, same sex relationship at same sex marriage ay kasalanan laban sa Diyos.

FACT:
Mali rin po yan. Wala pong provision sa SOGIE Bill sa pag-ban ng ganyang activities.


4) The bill removes parental rights over their children who may have a homosexual tendency & trying to persuade their children to go against their homosexual feelings can be charged and can be put to jail.

FACT:
Mali rin po yan. Ang ipinagbabawal ng SOGIE Bill ay ang pag-inflinct ng harm (psychological, emotional, physical) sa kanilang LGBT children for being LGBT. Is inflicting psychological, emotional, and physical harm part of parental authority? NO.


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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Chupando's Angels » Thu Aug 29, 2019 8:20 am

Sagot sa mga hindi nakakaintindi sa pinaglalaban
ng mga LGBT about Sogie Bill :D/ :D/ :D/ <:-P

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Xanadu Tinkerbell » Thu Aug 29, 2019 10:51 am

JUICE KOHHH.... totoo ba itetch... madalas palang mapasubo
noon yang si Ate Gretchen Diez niyo? :-O :-O :-O

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby ESMERALDHA » Thu Aug 29, 2019 11:19 am

Tama ka Manny, puro politika imbes na suportahan ang magandang programa.
Parang kaming mga LGBT, imbes na suportahan eh binabatikos pa yung SOGIE Bill namin.

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Xanadu Tinkerbell » Thu Aug 29, 2019 3:14 pm

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As much as us humans cherish our historic churches and many other historical buildings we forget that without our trees, forests, rain forests and all other green leafed bushes we will cease to exist!!! Trees produce all the oxygen we need to breath, we can live without churches and historical buildings but we cannot live without OXYGEN !!! Forests are the lungs of our planet Earth !!! :-O :-O :%((

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Dyesabel » Fri Aug 30, 2019 4:25 am

Ang tunay na nangyari sa iskandalo si Gretchen hawak na ni Sotto.

Ayon sa footage na hawak ngayon ni Tito Sotto III, Ito palang si Gretchen Diez ay rineklamo pala ng mga kababaihan dun sa cr sa farmers plaza.
Parang lumalabas na may unang babae na nagsumbong sa dalawang janitress para sabihin na merong lalaki sa loob, na hindi nman nila agad npancin. Kaso may sumunod na babae na nag-cr din at ito rin ay nagsumbong. Nung makita, sinabihan daw nila itong si Gretchen Diez na sa PWD nalang mag-cr. Isang maayos na pagmumungkahi kung tutuusin.

Sa punto ni Diez ang pagkuha ng video ay panlaban niya sa pangaalipusta sakanya ng mga staff ng nasabing mall. Kaso hindi ito ang kabuuan ng istorya. Sa panig naman ng mga staff, ginawa nila ito para masiguro ang kaayusan ng mga kababaihan sa cr.

Hndi tama ang kinalabasan ng pangyayaring ito dahil sa panig ni Diez, umulan ang suporta ng mga celebrity at mga politiko. Lalu na yung Geraldine Roman(isa ring transgender) na para bang tumayo ng attorney sa eksena. Sa kabilang panig naman walang kakampi ang mga staff na ang kasalanan lang nman ay ginawa ang kanilang trabaho. oo siguro naging physical sila, kaso kung kelangan mo maging assertive paminsan ito'y hindi maiiwasan. Nagpasakit pa ng sitwasyon ang agarang paghingi ng despensa ng Farmers mall kay Diez na para bang sinasabing wala silang nakitang mali sa parte ni Diez, at mali ang mga staff dahil humarang sila.

Pakiusap sainyong malalaking establlishments. Mahalin niyo naman ang mga trabahante nyo, sila na walang pagod na naglilinis sa dumi at dura ng mga customer niyo. Mga trabahante na kahit mataas ang bilihin ay nagtitiis sa maliit na sahod mabuhay lang. Masakit sa puso isipin na malamang may masisibak sa trabaho.

Hndi mo na alam ang kalulugaran mo sa mundo ngaun.Ni tanong sa mga kababihan natanong niyo ba kung ayos ba sakanila ang pagpasok ng mga trans sa cr nila? Kung ano mararamdaman nila kung sakaling payagan na talaga ang mga ito? Na nakakatawang isipin bilang lalaki, katabi ng bunsong babae mo at asawa mo sa mga cubicle? Para tayong pinapalamon ng isang bagay na mahirap na ngang lunukin, gusto pa ipa-sambit saten na itoy tama.

I usually support GENDER-EQUALITY advocacies. But this matter is not one of them.
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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Hu Yu Hai Ding » Fri Aug 30, 2019 1:57 pm

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The bank robber shouted to everyone in the bank: "Don't move. The money belongs to the State. Your life belongs to you."

Everyone in the bank laid down quietly. This is called "Mind Changing Concept” Changing the conventional way of thinking.

When a lady lay on the table provocatively, the robber shouted at her: "Please be civilized! This is a robbery and not a rape!"

This is called "Being Professional” Focus only on what you are trained to do!

When the bank robbers returned home, the younger robber (MBA-trained) told the older robber (who has only completed Year 6 in primary school): "Big brother, let's count how much we got."

The older robber rebutted and said: "You are very stupid. There is so much money it will take us a long time to count. Tonight, the TV news will tell us how much we robbed from the bank!"

This is called "Experience.” Nowadays, experience is more important than paper qualifications!

After the robbers had left, the bank manager told the bank supervisor to call the police quickly. But the supervisor said to him: "Wait! Let us take out $10 million from the bank for ourselves and add it to the $70 million that we have previously embezzled from the bank”.

This is called "Swim with the tide.” Converting an unfavorable situation to your advantage!

The supervisor says: "It will be good if there is a robbery every month."

This is called "Killing Boredom.” Personal Happiness is more important than your job.

The next day, the TV news reported that $100 million was taken from the bank. The robbers counted and counted and counted, but they could only count $20 million. The robbers were very angry and complained: "We risked our lives and only took $20 million. The bank manager took $80 million with a snap of his fingers. It looks like it is better to be educated than to be a thief!"

This is called "Knowledge is worth as much as gold!"

The bank manager was smiling and happy because his losses in the share market are now covered by this robbery.

This is called "Seizing the opportunity.” Daring to take risks!

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Mrs. Markova » Fri Aug 30, 2019 2:35 pm

Wow Gretchen Diez... So now we are being preached to. :-O

I do not pretend to be a good Christian, but since you brought up the topic of God, let's bullet the facts, shall we?

☑ God does not hate? Wrong. He DOES. He HATES sin. He loves sinners but He will not let sin go unpunished, contrary to the transgender gospel you preach. Invoking God's name does not change reality.

☑ We are limiting His power? Again, wrong! YOU are limiting HIS power and HIS wisdom by questioning and altering HIS original design of 2 genders, of the exclusivity of marriage between man and woman.

☑ Love accepts? Ah, the blanket argument. Rejection does not equate to hate. You push the false self-serving narrative that rejecting transgenderism is hate but it is not. Those of us opposed to it take this position because we believe in the natural order of creation, not because we hate transgenders. We believe gender is a matter of biology and not preference.

☑ Making people out to be hateful and intolerant for believing in nature's original design makes YOU the bully, the predator. You clamor for the validation of society by advocating bills that will become laws--laws that will force the rest of the general public to acknowledge your "gender", but your arrogance and self entitlement will only make people resent you more and create greater divide.

Transgenderism has been more than tolerated in the Philippines. It is embraced even in a predominantly Catholic country. Transgender celebrities and popular TV shows openly celebrating the transgender lifestyle are proof of this. But you want more. You DEMAND more. You want to rewrite the rules. The rules of the land. The rules of biology. You expect unquestioning acceptance of your self-appointed gender. You want people to abandon reason, beliefs, convictions, and values for YOUR own sense of acceptance.

You cannot expect to enjoy the same rights as natural born women because you are NOT a woman. And a large number in the LGBTQIA at least have the sense to acknowledge this. Many transgenders have the self awareness to know that their lifestyle is a CHOICE and even distance themselves from your propaganda. Not all transgenders deal that victim-of-discrimination card every time their feelings get hurt. They know which CR to use because they RESPECT the general public, and for that they have my respect.

Let's look at this from a logical--a COMMON SENSE perspective:

If identity is a matter of choice, then the same logic follows that it is discriminatory for governments to demand visas or any proof of citizenship before allowing admission within their borders. If I self identify as French, is the government of France then obligated to acknowledge my self appointed citizenship in the name of tolerance and acceptance? Should I then be allowed to vote in their elections? Would I be then justified in calling them bigots if I am denied entry into the country?

No.

You, Gretchen Diez, feel entitled to MY rights as a woman just because you feel like a woman and live like a woman. But even surgery will never change who you are...who you were born as...a MAN. Deep down YOU know this. The person you are really trying to convince with this outrageous crusade of yours is yourself. And you think convincing--more like guilting--us into accepting you as a natural woman will finally validate who you pretend--and can only ever pretend to be...

It will not.
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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby Virginia Dalisay » Sat Aug 31, 2019 12:18 pm

Sa mga katulad ni Mystica mag-isip tungkol sa SOGIE Bill... wala pong nakalagay na dapat i-prioritise ang LGBT sa job placements. Ang ipinagbabawal po ng SOGIE Bill ay ang di pagtanggap sa aplikante dahil sa kanyang sexual orientation, gender identity, o expression...Hindi po tinatanggal ng SOGIE bill ang karapatan ng mga companies na i-determine ang required skills, competence, experience, at educational attainment sa mga aplikante. :-O =O/ :-O

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I think I just lost five years of my life reading ANTI-SOGIE Equality bill comments on Facebook. But to at least make it worthwhile, I'm sharing a few of the common arguments some people use to attack the bill (and in extension, the LGBT community), why they don't make sense and how to answer back:

1. "What if a man dressed like a transwoman and harasses me?"

There's the keyword. A MAN. This is a classic case of misattribution. It's not the LGBT community's fault that predators exist. Queer people themselves are victims.

Answer: That's rape culture. It's a different problem and it requires a different solution. It has nothing to do with granting rights and welfare to queer individuals.

2. "What if the person harassing me is gay?"

Then his/her/their gender doesn't matter. It's harassment and there are sexual harassment and abuse laws that address that. The bill doesn't protect people who commit crimes.

Answer: That person is liable to a criminal offence. His/her/their acts don't represent gay people. (Also, to think like that is just... ignorant. But no, we won’t say this, we are nice.)

3. "The bill discriminates against my beliefs!"

The bill doesn't impose that you accept them but it requires you to respect their rights as equals.

Answer: No, it doesn't. Unless your beliefs take away political, social and economic opportunities for LGBT individuals, which is discriminatory and a legal offense, then you're free to live in your own world.

4. "If we say something bad against gay people, they will call us homophobes and we will be punished for it."

If you attack gay people on the basis of their gender, then you are a homophobe. But like everyone on Earth, no one so perfect so you can always call out their faults as long as you're not attacking their sexuality.

Answer: No you won't be punished unless you are express sexist slurs, especially in professional or educational settings.

5. “We (insert homophobic group here) have been constantly persecuted for expressing our beliefs. The bill would just encourage more of that."

This one's tricky. I think it's best to ask why they are ostracised, to begin with. Are they being mocked for who they are (e.g. Christians) or for what they do (e.g. impose their dogma on everyone through the rule of law)?

Answer: No one is exempt from mockery. Gays, atheists and activists are all stigmatised. Regardless, the bill, like any other human rights law, intends to protect people who are marginalised not out of their choice but because of their identity, the same way we protect women, children and indigenous peoples.

6. (Saddest of them all) "My parents accept me for who I am. I have the same opportunities as everybody else. I don't need the SOGIE bill."

PRIVILEGE. As plain as the sky.

Answer: That's good for you. But for many other gay people, there are too many barriers to get to where they want to go and the bill just simply looks out for those who don't have the same privilege as yours.

Feel free to share other arguments you encounter in your conversations. As much as there are bigots are all around us, a lot of people are just afraid of changes, unaware of their own prejudices or simple confused about grey areas.

The SOGIE Equality bill is all about securing the rights and welfare of LGBT people, just like ours have been protected by the law (not everyone, sadly but that's another story). Let's remind people that.

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Luka luka talaga yang mga trans na yan @-)
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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

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Re: My take on LGBTQ+ and SOGIE Bill

Postby ESMERALDHA » Sun Sep 01, 2019 2:41 pm

A LOVE STORY..... by Atty. Bruce Rivera

This is not my foray to being a writer because I know I can never be. I am overrated. However, I am telling this story because with so much contempt for the LGBTIQ+ and the SOGIE, I feel the need to tell this story to tell you that our community is just like any other human community. We love and our love will last a lifetime. So allow me to tell you this story. And I hope those against the SOGIE Bill will read this and I am sure it will not change your perception. So do not be afraid.

H is in his late thirties, highly educated, snob, self-entitled and insecure. W is in his early twenties, educated but naive, self-entitled as well and more insecure. And they had every reason to be insecure. Both were gay. And in today's Philippines, our society really never expected gays to have a love story. However, most have us "love". Sadly, most of us do not even attempt loving because we know how it will end.

So some of us act as if we have never learned the act of loving, some dare to love, get hurt, love again, get hurt again and die trying to love. Some try to conform to the requirements of what is perceived to acceptable in society. While some become the gender they are supposed to and damn how our society would react.

And in today's society where it is politically incorrect to be homophobic, many of your friends tell you how they love gays and how we are funny but when the time is right to give you the acceptance as an equal, true colors show. And I cannot blame the homophobic, some of the LGBTIQ+ are. Nothing is more scary than God's wrath.

So, I have to be human and be more accepting of people who only see us for our difference and see the freaks they perceive us to be. And be silently thankful they are not born this way. Some even deny being born this way and even go out of their way to shame us to make a point. But that is how our society is wired. The more you conform, the better.

And in all honesty, I earn more as a male looking lawyer than I earn as a female looking lawyer. There is just that unrealiability as a cross-dressing lawyer, I guess. So my point is....yes, the love story.

H met W, they had a relationship, W died and H lives his life, alone and just waiting for life to be over. And H is one of the lucky ones who got to love and be loved in return. But majority in our community are not as lucky to have the convenience of a relationship premised on love among others. And perhaps if we have equality and gender sensitivity from our society, the pain of loneliness will be less painful if we have the acceptance from the Filipino people.

And like most of us in the LGBTIQ+, love and acceptance is not a right. And all our love stories usually end up the same: a one way street. And what makes it worst is when an LGBTIQ+ tries to love himself or herself because there is no other option and tries to assert our identity, people call us self-entitled.

This just me, not necessarily the feeling of my community. But I still love my country. I have to. You are the only one I got. Just be easy on me.
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